Heavy Duty Solenoids

Solenoids · 06-23-2012, 04:37 PM

I need a couple of very heavy duty, 6 post, double throw, solenoids for my modified Yamaha golf cart. The ones that I am using are White Rodgers 586-320111’s that have a rating of 600 Amp in-rush and 200 Amp continuous (supposedly the heaviest duty ones available). My guess is that I need some industrial ones from a different application. After upgrading my power setup, these WR solenoids are running very hot and I am afraid they may internally weld themselves not allowing me to power off.
Any ideas? Thanks.

Hoof Hearted · 06-23-2012, 05:49 PM

I wonder if this might work better for you:

http://www.alliedelec.com/search/sea...3&SearchType=0

Andy4639 · 06-24-2012, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solenoids

I need a couple of very heavy duty, 6 post, double throw, solenoids for my modified Yamaha golf cart. The ones that I am using are White Rodgers 586-320111’s that have a rating of 600 Amp in-rush and 200 Amp continuous (supposedly the heaviest duty ones available). My guess is that I need some industrial ones from a different application. After upgrading my power setup, these WR solenoids are running very hot and I am afraid they may internally weld themselves not allowing me to power off.
Any ideas? Thanks.

Can you explain the way they are used and why 6 post?

Solenoids · 06-24-2012, 09:19 AM

Unfortunaltey the one you found is not a 6 terminal, double throw, unit but I'll check with that distributor tomorrow to see if they carry the 6 terminal ones in the higher rated models.

The reason that I need the 6 terminal, double throw solenoids is that orginal fabricator of the cart, a Yamaha E22, used a three solenoid array to convert the cart so it would run a Series motor. (I guess the Series motor had more power than the stock one).

The first, "master solenoid", is a normal 4 post unit and the other two have 6 posts. The three are cable in together, but I don't understand the logic of how it was done. The co. that I bought the new motor from said I had to keep the soenoids cabled in that fashion or it would not work.

Hoof Hearted · 06-24-2012, 09:31 AM

Good luck with help at Allied, I spoke with a twenty something kid who had the "I'm just doing my job" mentality. They have a pretty good search engine though.......

I now understand your screen name

Andy4639 · 06-24-2012, 11:32 AM

Do you have the F/R handle are is it a switch?
I'm thinking they use the 2 Contactors for the F/R switching.

Series motor's all work the same way. The cables have no bearing on if it's series are not motor. Pictures would help a lot and if it is being used in the F/R way I can save you a lot of money on contactors and give you 400 amp cont with 1000 amp in rush.

Solenoids · 06-24-2012, 07:14 PM

Indeed, I belive you are right, there isn't a manual FR switch. All I have is a small electrical switch that controls FR.

Now, I seem to recall that the cart guy told me the stock manual one would not support the current that involved with my first set-up: 550 A controller and about a 5 hp motor. (the new set-up is 850A and 9 hp continuous)

I hope this helps...

Andy4639 · 06-25-2012, 06:40 AM

U want a F/R conyactor. I don't know how your cart is wired but I have a 72 volt and a 48 volt cart running these F/R contactors with no problems.
U need to look at my thread here. You will find everything you need.

http://www.buggiesgonewild.com/extre...omponents.html

Hoof Hearted · 06-25-2012, 08:10 AM

Andy

Your link doesn't give a part number (that I saw) or a link for where to get a F/R contactor....

Can you post that info? I want to shorten my cable runs.

Thanks, Gary

sonicj · 06-25-2012, 08:57 AM

Heres a sw202 clone: http://evdrives.com/contactors_SW202.html

The one in Andy's post looks like the Albright DC182. 200A constant.
-sj

06-23-2012, 04:37 PM	#1
Solenoids Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 26	Heavy Duty Solenoids I need a couple of very heavy duty, 6 post, double throw, solenoids for my modified Yamaha golf cart. The ones that I am using are White Rodgers 586-320111’s that have a rating of 600 Amp in-rush and 200 Amp continuous (supposedly the heaviest duty ones available). My guess is that I need some industrial ones from a different application. After upgrading my power setup, these WR solenoids are running very hot and I am afraid they may internally weld themselves not allowing me to power off. Any ideas? Thanks.
Solenoids Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 26

06-23-2012, 05:49 PM	#2
Hoof Hearted Gone Wild Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 205	Re: Heavy Duty Solenoids I wonder if this might work better for you: http://www.alliedelec.com/search/sea...3&SearchType=0
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06-24-2012, 09:19 AM	#4
Solenoids Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 26	Re: Heavy Duty Solenoids Unfortunaltey the one you found is not a 6 terminal, double throw, unit but I'll check with that distributor tomorrow to see if they carry the 6 terminal ones in the higher rated models. The reason that I need the 6 terminal, double throw solenoids is that orginal fabricator of the cart, a Yamaha E22, used a three solenoid array to convert the cart so it would run a Series motor. (I guess the Series motor had more power than the stock one). The first, "master solenoid", is a normal 4 post unit and the other two have 6 posts. The three are cable in together, but I don't understand the logic of how it was done. The co. that I bought the new motor from said I had to keep the soenoids cabled in that fashion or it would not work.
Solenoids Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 26

06-24-2012, 09:31 AM	#5
Hoof Hearted Gone Wild Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 205	Re: Heavy Duty Solenoids Good luck with help at Allied, I spoke with a twenty something kid who had the "I'm just doing my job" mentality. They have a pretty good search engine though....... I now understand your screen name
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06-24-2012, 11:32 AM	#6
Andy4639 48/400/Alltrax HS motor Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Liberty SC, Garden City SC Posts: 6,190	Re: Heavy Duty Solenoids Do you have the F/R handle are is it a switch? I'm thinking they use the 2 Contactors for the F/R switching. Series motor's all work the same way. The cables have no bearing on if it's series are not motor. Pictures would help a lot and if it is being used in the F/R way I can save you a lot of money on contactors and give you 400 amp cont with 1000 amp in rush.

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06-24-2012, 07:14 PM	#7
Solenoids Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 26	Re: Heavy Duty Solenoids Indeed, I belive you are right, there isn't a manual FR switch. All I have is a small electrical switch that controls FR. Now, I seem to recall that the cart guy told me the stock manual one would not support the current that involved with my first set-up: 550 A controller and about a 5 hp motor. (the new set-up is 850A and 9 hp continuous) I hope this helps...
Solenoids Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 26

06-25-2012, 06:40 AM	#8
Andy4639 48/400/Alltrax HS motor Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Liberty SC, Garden City SC Posts: 6,190	Re: Heavy Duty Solenoids U want a F/R conyactor. I don't know how your cart is wired but I have a 72 volt and a 48 volt cart running these F/R contactors with no problems. U need to look at my thread here. You will find everything you need. http://www.buggiesgonewild.com/extre...omponents.html

06-25-2012, 08:10 AM	#9
Hoof Hearted Gone Wild Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 205	Re: Heavy Duty Solenoids Andy Your link doesn't give a part number (that I saw) or a link for where to get a F/R contactor.... Can you post that info? I want to shorten my cable runs. Thanks, Gary
Hoof Hearted Gone Wild Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 205

06-25-2012, 08:57 AM	#10
sonicj Gone Wild Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 1,408	Re: Heavy Duty Solenoids Heres a sw202 clone: http://evdrives.com/contactors_SW202.html The one in Andy's post looks like the Albright DC182. 200A constant. -sj

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