Not normal charging issues

ericandrews331@msn.com

I am going to give this one more try! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Club car DS key start conversion (previously a pedal start).

Unable to get the charging voltage from S/G through 3 pole(2 lrge + 1small) continuous use solenoid.

Current wiring configurations: large white wire from S/G to one lug continuous use solenoid. 1 red wire from V/R (voltage reg) and 1 red wire to the positive terminal on the battery to the other large pole

What I know; If I keep the blue start (control wire) from my "key start" connected along with the white jumper wire from the S/G side of the solenoid I blow the fuse Immediately prior to start, if I remove the white jumper wire, connect the blue wire alone the car starts, remove the blue wire temporary drop the white jumper AND the battery is immediately hitting 14.7volts my target turn the key off and the cart continues to run (no blue control wire) take off the white jumper drop on the blue control wire and the cart will shut down in off position.

My thoughts; I considered a diode on the blue wire from the key to keep the back feed of higher voltage blowing the fuse but I still don't see how I can shut the cart down. Can anyone help?

BGW

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lockman1

Have you considered getting a 4 post continuous duty solenoid?

ericandrews331@msn.com

Absolutely would consider it how would I wire it? I have been thinking it could be an issue(the solenoid) but I understand so little about how they would work in this situation

lockman1

Every gas Club Car have a 4 post continuous duty solenoid, (key, and pedal start)
my cart ( and most I've seen) have a diode across the 2 small terminals,
how it works that way? I don't know... and thats why I didn't answer any of your other threads!
It would be easier to figure out how to wire it with the proper solenoid!

ericandrews331@msn.com

consider it done, what about the diode? pretend I have the 4 pole solenoid what's next, anyone ? I just want to get very usable power from the S/G back to the battery I just cant figure out how to get it across an open solenoid, seems it should be simple but I'm not having any luck

meimk

The point of the continuous duty solenoid is that it's continuous. In original pedal start configuration with the 4 pole solenoid the blue wire from the stock ignition switch provides (+) to one side of the solenoid when the switch is in on/run position. The other small terminal goes to ground through the micro switches for shifter and pedal position. Those two things complete the circuit and send power across the big terminals to engage the starter. The same bell crank in the black control box that works the pedal switch also disengages a ignition kill switch right under the pedal switch. When those two things happen, starter engaged and ignition kill disengaged, the engine can start and run. Once the engine runs the power generated by the starter/generator travels back across that solenoid to the battery.

ericandrews331@msn.com

I understand this part but how does it work on a factory key start club car, I think I need a diode somewhere because with a running cart, if I remove the blue control wire from the key start ignition that connects to the single sm pole on the solenoid replace it with a small jumper from the large pole with the white S/G wire I get 14 +volts to my battery my goal, BUT I can no longer shut the cart off. If I try and connect the blue control wire and the white jumper at the same time I immediately blow the fuse. I have a good
solenoid( 85A Normally open contacts, SPST, one circuit, Off - On)

I know I am missing something here

lockman1

Here's a diagram for the ECB on a key start cart,
I don't know if this will help, but it's worth a shot!

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ericandrews331@msn.com

? its a start, thanks

lockman1

Yeah, I only posted it because it shows the diode across the 2 small posts of the solenoid.