06-20-2010, 10:37 PM | #1 |
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broken frame rear
I've been wanting to take the back plastic off my 96 club car. It is like this on both sides on the rear. I put a trailer hitch on my cart when I got it a few months back. Well as soon as i stood on the trailer hitch i about ate cement. So i took shell off today and this is what i found. I was planing on somehow bolting it back together somehow. But as you can see there isnt really anywhere to bolt anything together. I have heard DO NOT weld on the frame it will kill all my electrical stuff. Being gas and all what if i just undo the battery can we weld on it then? I hope lets here some what i would do's thanks Last edited by 96clubber; 06-20-2010 at 10:37 PM.. Reason: forgot something |
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06-20-2010, 10:52 PM | #2 |
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Re: broken frame rear
YEs you can weld on them .... We TIG weld that stuff but the bear is it has to be very very very clean first... which is a bear. The break you showed is typical for CC .... Disconnect the battery just to be safe
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06-20-2010, 10:56 PM | #3 |
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Re: broken frame rear
how do you guys reinforce it so it doesnt happen again
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06-20-2010, 11:02 PM | #4 |
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Re: broken frame rear
We beef the weld up a lot. Other than that nothing.... it took more than 10 yrs of abuse to break I imagine you could try a support on the top of the frame ends going from one side to the other side?
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06-20-2010, 11:21 PM | #5 |
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Re: broken frame rear
can i use maric acid on it to clean it up? can i pressure wash it all the way it sits no plastic on it? i didnt know if the water would hurt it any?
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06-20-2010, 11:29 PM | #6 |
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06-21-2010, 12:17 AM | #7 |
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Re: broken frame rear
wow do you think that will actually hold up well? he showed the strength by how hard it was compared to the material. where could i even buy this stuff? probably be cheaper just to take the cart somewhere and just get it welded
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06-21-2010, 12:25 AM | #8 |
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Re: broken frame rear
Some of guy have talked about this on here, don't know what the out come was. but they sale the rods on ebay
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06-21-2010, 01:55 AM | #9 |
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Re: broken frame rear
wow! that stuff is amazing! here's a longer video
http://www.aluminumrepair.com/video_new.asp the problem i see, though, is an applications where high heat is generated, like in an engine. how hot does an engine get, exactly, and would it be applicable to mending a head (as they show in the video)? for fixing this frame, though, they should work perfectly, and easily. just follow the instructions. plus, then you'd have a pound of it to fix other stuff :) |
06-23-2010, 12:01 PM | #10 |
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Re: broken frame rear
I am a weldor..I have 25 years experience and 2 years of schooling. Those rods are a bit misleading to the average person. These are a tin based alloy that is NOT as strong as aluminum, and is not "welding" by definition. Welding is the joining of two "same" metals by "cohesion", where both the base metal and deposition metal are melted and flow together to become one. The video is showing the process of "adhesion". Where the base metal is not melted and the deposition metal is only "adhering" to the base metal. There is NO penetration in this process. This process falls under the category of soldering.
The break in your frame should NOT be repaired using that product. It has its uses, but anything structural or where safety is a issue should not be repaired with it. Like any pressure vessels, or things that if they broke, someone might get hurt. Just take it to an experienced weldor. Do not clean it with anything like acid or brake cleaner, just leave it be. The weldor will know what to clean it with and should have that in his supplies. Some chemicals will get into the miro pores in the metal and give off some pretty bad fumes or contaminate the weld during the welding process. A guy brought me a dirtbike engine case to have tig welded. I cleaned it and fired up the TIG welder and and smelled a chlorine-like odor, strong enough to make my nose burn and eyes water. He told me he cleaned the part with brake cleaner. No matter how much I re-cleaned the part it would not go away. An experienced TIG or MIG weldor will have no problem with that simple repair as long as you do not mess with it. He should also know how to reinforce it to help prevent another break. If you smear that solder all over the joint it will be a nightmare getting it ALL off to properly weld it. Believe me, if all I needed was a propane torch and those rods, I would never have purchased a 2000 dollar TIG welder. And TIG welding would be obsolete. If you have any questions, just ask. And good luck! Last edited by chachi44089; 06-23-2010 at 12:07 PM.. Reason: adding text |
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