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Old 01-21-2013, 06:35 PM   #1
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Default Solving CW to CCW Issue

Looking for ideas to solve my rotation direction issue. Have a '97 ds and have a 22hp Subaru 650 that is CCW. Transaxle is designed for CW. I can go faster in reverse than forward and I don't like it. When going in reverse, it pops out of gear so I either need to spend time/money on this one or a different solution. I also would like a limited slip. What options do I have? Fab work is not an issue. Do any of the other brand carts use a CCW input? Maybe retrofit that transaxle into my cc.

The 22hp Subaru is probably closer to 25 or 26 because of modifictions done to it so I would need something that is known for strength also. Any ideas??
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:20 PM   #2
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Default Re: Solving CW to CCW Issue

'96 and older Club Car used a countercockwise rotation. Club Car changed (reason unknown) to clockwise with the '97 models.
You could get a rear axle assembly from a pre '96 and solve the issue.

Another choice is high speed gears. It will still be reversed and still be faster in reverse but you forward speed would pick up.
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Old 01-21-2013, 10:43 PM   #3
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'96 and older Club Car used a countercockwise rotation. Club Car changed (reason unknown) to clockwise with the '97 models.
You could get a rear axle assembly from a pre '96 and solve the issue.

Another choice is high speed gears. It will still be reversed and still be faster in reverse but you forward speed would pick up.


Were ALL pre 96 club cars CCW rotation? There wasn't any special years or applications to avoid that used CW? It sounds like I need to start looking for a pre '97 transaxle. Thanks Any other ideas?
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Old 01-22-2013, 07:36 AM   #4
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Default Re: Solving CW to CCW Issue

To the best of my knowledge, all the DS, CarryAll, and Villager models used a counterclockwise rotation 96 and older. The change to clockwise happened in the DS for '97 and up for sure. Probably for the Villager 4 as well since it is essentially a DS with a back seat. I do not know for sure when it happened with the CarryAll, but its a good bet it was '97 as well, since there is very little difference in the drive train.
There are those far more knowledgeable than I on all matters Club Car. I'm fairly certain they would correct any mistaken information.
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Old 01-22-2013, 08:21 AM   #5
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Default Re: Solving CW to CCW Issue

only good cure is a pre 97 rear unless you fab another rear in the cart from a yamaha or ez-go
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Old 01-22-2013, 11:03 AM   #6
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To the best of my knowledge, all the DS, CarryAll, and Villager models used a counterclockwise rotation 96 and older. The change to clockwise happened in the DS for '97 and up for sure. Probably for the Villager 4 as well since it is essentially a DS with a back seat. I do not know for sure when it happened with the CarryAll, but its a good bet it was '97 as well, since there is very little difference in the drive train.
There are those far more knowledgeable than I on all matters Club Car. I'm fairly certain they would correct any mistaken information.

Thanks for the info. Does the CarryAll use the same transaxle or is it a heavier duty model?



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only good cure is a pre 97 rear unless you fab another rear in the cart from a yamaha or ez-go
Are the Yamaha's and ezgo's both CCW transaxles? Any idea if either of them is known as being the strongest transaxle?
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Thanks for the info. Does the CarryAll use the same transaxle or is it a heavier duty model?
As far as I know, it is the same transaxle. At least within the same model years. '97 saw the introduction of the unitized Kawasaki transaxle. Earlier years had separate gear box and differential oil compartments on the transaxle.
Some of the more knowledgeable can give you better details on what transaxles were used in different years.
The CarryAll does have heavy duty springs/suspension. If I an not mistaken, the CarryAll also incorporates a stabilizer bar in to the rear suspension.
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Old 01-23-2013, 07:00 PM   #8
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Default Re: Solving CW to CCW Issue

How about someone just regrind the camshaft and timing
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Old 01-23-2013, 08:14 PM   #9
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Default Re: Solving CW to CCW Issue

Or save a few bucks and make a jackshaft set up
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:04 AM   #10
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How about someone just regrind the camshaft and timing
Would the cooling fan still work?
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