Paint or actual plastic can’t tell

Tommybh · 06-20-2019, 12:44 PM

Can anyone tell me if this is paint or plastic I can’t tell it’s a g16 Yamaha front cowl and how would you fix this

Thanks so much in advance guys

Shepard · 06-20-2019, 01:10 PM

Most likely a jell coat sprayed in the mold then injected with plastic.

Mooncarter · 06-20-2019, 01:22 PM

Those gouges look pretty deep and plentiful. I think I would replace it.

meimk · 06-20-2019, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mooncarter

Those gouges look pretty deep and plentiful. I think I would replace it.

To the best of my knowledge those aren’t made anymore. Tried to find a replacement for a customer last year and had to settle for whatever we could find from salvage

Lochlin · 06-20-2019, 01:47 PM

Indeed, that's a jell-coat. I have done body work on those before. Bondo holds on it no problem. Personally, I would just fill the gouges with filler, prime it and then repaint it.

If you take a sample (heck, I would take the entire cowl) to an auto body paint shop they will match the paint perfect for you. They can put the paint in a rattle can if needed as well. The finish isn't as smooth with the rattle can but it will be more smooth then it would be with a big box store rattle can.

Mooncarter · 06-20-2019, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by meimk

To the best of my knowledge those aren’t made anymore. Tried to find a replacement for a customer last year and had to settle for whatever we could find from salvage

Yeah I just did a quick search and only found a couple (front and rear) and they were crazy expensive.

He might find one local or have to fix that one.

Tommybh · 06-24-2019, 06:23 AM

Thanks a lot guys I really appreciate your help so Bondo to fill those in but not sure what kind of prep work I should do before I repaint the entire thing does it need any sort of plastic adhesive prep or just sand and prime thanks guys

Lochlin · 06-24-2019, 06:38 AM

I just buffed, primed, and squirted mine. 5 years later and it still looks great. I use real auto paint and not rattle can for what it's worth.

Tommybh · 06-24-2019, 11:01 AM

Do I sand all the red off is it paint or red gel coat i have no idea on that stuff

CP241 · 06-24-2019, 12:17 PM

I always try to strip it down to bare plastic before painting.

Klean Strip furniture stripper comes in an aerosol can that makes it MUCH easier to apply. Spray it on, wait 15 minutes, and blast it with a pressure washer. Paint gone. It may take 2 applications but that's by far the easiest way to take it down to bare plastic. Then fix any deep gouges/scratches/etc. Then apply adhesion promotor, primer, paint, and clear.

06-20-2019, 01:10 PM	#2
Shepard Crazy Ole Man Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Owego NY Posts: 2,758	Re: Paint or actual plastic can’t tell Most likely a jell coat sprayed in the mold then injected with plastic.

06-20-2019, 01:22 PM	#3
Mooncarter Gone Insane Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 14,215	Re: Paint or actual plastic can’t tell Those gouges look pretty deep and plentiful. I think I would replace it.

06-20-2019, 01:47 PM	#5
Lochlin Gone Wild Join Date: May 2011 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 2,948	Re: Paint or actual plastic can’t tell Indeed, that's a jell-coat. I have done body work on those before. Bondo holds on it no problem. Personally, I would just fill the gouges with filler, prime it and then repaint it. If you take a sample (heck, I would take the entire cowl) to an auto body paint shop they will match the paint perfect for you. They can put the paint in a rattle can if needed as well. The finish isn't as smooth with the rattle can but it will be more smooth then it would be with a big box store rattle can.

06-24-2019, 06:23 AM	#7
Tommybh Getting Wild Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 114	Re: Paint or actual plastic can’t tell Thanks a lot guys I really appreciate your help so Bondo to fill those in but not sure what kind of prep work I should do before I repaint the entire thing does it need any sort of plastic adhesive prep or just sand and prime thanks guys
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06-24-2019, 06:38 AM	#8
Lochlin Gone Wild Join Date: May 2011 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 2,948	Re: Paint or actual plastic can’t tell I just buffed, primed, and squirted mine. 5 years later and it still looks great. I use real auto paint and not rattle can for what it's worth.

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06-24-2019, 11:01 AM	#9
Tommybh Getting Wild Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 114	Re: Paint or actual plastic can’t tell Do I sand all the red off is it paint or red gel coat i have no idea on that stuff
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06-24-2019, 12:17 PM	#10
CP241 Nincompoop village idiot Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Michigan Posts: 9,682	Re: Paint or actual plastic can’t tell I always try to strip it down to bare plastic before painting. Klean Strip furniture stripper comes in an aerosol can that makes it MUCH easier to apply. Spray it on, wait 15 minutes, and blast it with a pressure washer. Paint gone. It may take 2 applications but that's by far the easiest way to take it down to bare plastic. Then fix any deep gouges/scratches/etc. Then apply adhesion promotor, primer, paint, and clear.

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