G1 gets fuel and is firing

wescad · 07-19-2009, 02:38 PM

My g1 was run great. Yesterday it just stopped and would not start back. I check all fuel lines. It is getting fuel. The carb has been clean. The fuel pump has been clean. The fuel filter has been changed. The spark plug is firing. However, when i try to start it, it just turns over. I can spray starter fluid in choke and nothing. When I remove the spark plug it is wet and is still firing when tested. Anyone have any other ideas?

DOOmsman · 07-19-2009, 03:03 PM

How fast is it turning over? Does it try to move?

wescad · 07-19-2009, 03:10 PM

It has a brand new battery. It does not try to move at all.

DOOmsman · 07-19-2009, 03:28 PM

How fast? Is the starter belt slipping, a clutch stuck engaged, does the exaust get warm from trying to run?

wescad · 07-19-2009, 06:47 PM

It is turning fast enough to start it. The belt to the starter and egine turn. The other belt to the axle does not move. I do not think the belt is slipping. If it was slipping it smoke. Also if I disconnect the battery while trying to start it stops. If the belt was slipping it should continue to run.

DOOmsman · 07-19-2009, 07:02 PM

( If the belt was slipping it should continue to run.) we aren't on the same page with that but ok,
I don't say check the compresion first off but I think you are at that point. and again does the pipe right out of the engine feel at all warm.

wescad · 07-19-2009, 07:37 PM

I am sorry. Maybe I did not explain the belts very well. The starter belt is turning over the engine. There is a separate belt that turns the wheels. That one does not move. I have never done a compression test. How would I do it? What would cause the compression loose that quick?

wescad · 07-20-2009, 09:00 AM

The exhaust does get hot at all. I also check the compression and it was about 25psi.

DOOmsman · 07-20-2009, 09:05 AM

Do a search on compression check, you may have broke a seal or a rod. I am puzzeled by the fact you have spark and it won't fire on the choke cleaner. Does the throttle plate move with the pedal choke plate move?

wescad · 07-20-2009, 02:09 PM

Okay here is the latest. The exhaust does get hot but only after about a minute. The spark plug is firing very well. However, it will not start reguardless of fuel or starter fluid. Check the compression at about 25 psi. From what I read it should be around 125psi or so. It is also getting penty of fuel.

What could cause the compression drop like that without any signs (no smoke, knocking or power loss, just stopped)? Is my next step to pull the engine? (not what I am wanting to hear).

07-19-2009, 02:38 PM	#1
wescad Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6	G1 gets fuel and is firing My g1 was run great. Yesterday it just stopped and would not start back. I check all fuel lines. It is getting fuel. The carb has been clean. The fuel pump has been clean. The fuel filter has been changed. The spark plug is firing. However, when i try to start it, it just turns over. I can spray starter fluid in choke and nothing. When I remove the spark plug it is wet and is still firing when tested. Anyone have any other ideas?
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07-19-2009, 03:03 PM	#2
DOOmsman Gone Wild Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Reddick IL Posts: 11,220	Re: G1 gets fuel and is firing How fast is it turning over? Does it try to move?

07-19-2009, 03:10 PM	#3
wescad Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6	Re: G1 gets fuel and is firing It has a brand new battery. It does not try to move at all.
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07-19-2009, 03:28 PM	#4
DOOmsman Gone Wild Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Reddick IL Posts: 11,220	Re: G1 gets fuel and is firing How fast? Is the starter belt slipping, a clutch stuck engaged, does the exaust get warm from trying to run?

07-19-2009, 06:47 PM	#5
wescad Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6	Re: G1 gets fuel and is firing It is turning fast enough to start it. The belt to the starter and egine turn. The other belt to the axle does not move. I do not think the belt is slipping. If it was slipping it smoke. Also if I disconnect the battery while trying to start it stops. If the belt was slipping it should continue to run.
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07-19-2009, 07:02 PM	#6
DOOmsman Gone Wild Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Reddick IL Posts: 11,220	Re: G1 gets fuel and is firing ( If the belt was slipping it should continue to run.) we aren't on the same page with that but ok, I don't say check the compresion first off but I think you are at that point. and again does the pipe right out of the engine feel at all warm.

07-19-2009, 07:37 PM	#7
wescad Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6	Re: G1 gets fuel and is firing I am sorry. Maybe I did not explain the belts very well. The starter belt is turning over the engine. There is a separate belt that turns the wheels. That one does not move. I have never done a compression test. How would I do it? What would cause the compression loose that quick?
wescad Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6

07-20-2009, 09:00 AM	#8
wescad Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6	Re: G1 gets fuel and is firing The exhaust does get hot at all. I also check the compression and it was about 25psi.
wescad Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6

07-20-2009, 09:05 AM	#9
DOOmsman Gone Wild Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Reddick IL Posts: 11,220	Re: G1 gets fuel and is firing Do a search on compression check, you may have broke a seal or a rod. I am puzzeled by the fact you have spark and it won't fire on the choke cleaner. Does the throttle plate move with the pedal choke plate move?

07-20-2009, 02:09 PM	#10
wescad Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6	Re: G1 gets fuel and is firing Okay here is the latest. The exhaust does get hot but only after about a minute. The spark plug is firing very well. However, it will not start reguardless of fuel or starter fluid. Check the compression at about 25 psi. From what I read it should be around 125psi or so. It is also getting penty of fuel. What could cause the compression drop like that without any signs (no smoke, knocking or power loss, just stopped)? Is my next step to pull the engine? (not what I am wanting to hear).
wescad Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 6

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