g16 frame ground

sabercat · 03-10-2010, 10:39 PM

ok ok i know you can't ground anything to the frame on a yammy, but....

neibour has a nice g16 painted up like the 17 dewalt car, and had 2 weaker headlights and 2 taillights, grounded to the frame, cart ran fine no fuse blowing for years. now i helped him add 2 55 watt headlights to the top. forgot to run ground wire

(dumb i know...) so we grounded them to the top supports and after a little driving the fuse whent like i thougt.
question: if i ground the other 2 head lights and tailights to the batt, will the 2 55 watt headlights be ok grounded to the frame? (mainly becouse its difficult to run another wire through the top supports, lazy i know lol) just wondering since he went 3-4 years with his other lights grounded on the frame.
thanks guys.

sabercat · 03-10-2010, 10:39 PM

i'll post some pics of the cart too

breugel · 03-11-2010, 07:22 AM

The 2 x 55w lights are going to pull almost 10 amps alone. The only way to stop the fuse from blowing is to raise the fuse rating and this is a very bad idea or run a separate ground to the battery. The cart fuse was rated at 10 amps for a reason .

If you put in a 20 amp it will not blow but the reason the fuse is there ( to protect the car wiring) is diminished.

I have been designing / wiring / fixing control systems for 20 years.

cart de golf · 03-11-2010, 07:32 AM

you can ground you frame

from the negative of the battery

its just that they dont have one from the factory , they where not design for light

when you buy a light kit from yamaha the ground wire gose at the battery

essness · 03-11-2010, 08:16 AM

I'd like some feed back on the idea of bumping the main fuse to a 20 to 25 amp fuse. My local dealer told me just to bump the main fuse and the you could ground to the frame and there is no risk?

I did do that to one of my Yamis and never had any ill effect.

breugel · 03-11-2010, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cart de golf

you can ground you frame

from the negative of the battery

its just that they dont have one from the factory , they where not design for light

when you buy a light kit from yamaha the ground wire gose at the battery

If you run a wire from the neg of the battery to the frame then you bypass the fuse totally. Not a good idea.

Fuses are used for a reason.

breugel · 03-11-2010, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by essness

I'd like some feed back on the idea of bumping the main fuse to a 20 to 25 amp fuse. My local dealer told me just to bump the main fuse and the you could ground to the frame and there is no risk?

I did do that to one of my Yamis and never had any ill effect.

You will not have an ill effect until something shorts on the cart. It is made to protect things.

It is your cart but I have had to clean up equipment when somebody decided to just up the fuse.

essness · 03-11-2010, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by breugel

You will not have an ill effect until something shorts on the cart. It is made to protect things.

It is your cart but I have had to clean up equipment when somebody decided to just up the fuse.

Makes sence, thanks breugel

breugel · 03-11-2010, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by essness

Makes sence, thanks breugel

No problem.

I will make a wiring diagram of my cart and post it later... Work looks slow today.

TheNewGuy · 03-11-2010, 08:43 AM

I agree with breugel, do it right and ground to the battery.

03-10-2010, 10:39 PM	#1
sabercat gone yamaha! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: ontario, canada Posts: 1,424	g16 frame ground ok ok i know you can't ground anything to the frame on a yammy, but.... neibour has a nice g16 painted up like the 17 dewalt car, and had 2 weaker headlights and 2 taillights, grounded to the frame, cart ran fine no fuse blowing for years. now i helped him add 2 55 watt headlights to the top. forgot to run ground wire (dumb i know...) so we grounded them to the top supports and after a little driving the fuse whent like i thougt. question: if i ground the other 2 head lights and tailights to the batt, will the 2 55 watt headlights be ok grounded to the frame? (mainly becouse its difficult to run another wire through the top supports, lazy i know lol) just wondering since he went 3-4 years with his other lights grounded on the frame. thanks guys.

03-10-2010, 10:39 PM	#2
sabercat gone yamaha! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: ontario, canada Posts: 1,424	Re: g16 frame ground i'll post some pics of the cart too

03-11-2010, 07:22 AM	#3
breugel Gone Wild Join Date: May 2009 Location: Rock Hill SC Posts: 349	Re: g16 frame ground The 2 x 55w lights are going to pull almost 10 amps alone. The only way to stop the fuse from blowing is to raise the fuse rating and this is a very bad idea or run a separate ground to the battery. The cart fuse was rated at 10 amps for a reason . If you put in a 20 amp it will not blow but the reason the fuse is there ( to protect the car wiring) is diminished. I have been designing / wiring / fixing control systems for 20 years.

03-11-2010, 07:32 AM	#4
cart de golf Gone Wild Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 469	Re: g16 frame ground you can ground you frame from the negative of the battery its just that they dont have one from the factory , they where not design for light when you buy a light kit from yamaha the ground wire gose at the battery
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03-11-2010, 08:16 AM	#5
essness Not your usual outlaw Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Near Lake Geneva, WI Posts: 20,054	Re: g16 frame ground I'd like some feed back on the idea of bumping the main fuse to a 20 to 25 amp fuse. My local dealer told me just to bump the main fuse and the you could ground to the frame and there is no risk? I did do that to one of my Yamis and never had any ill effect.

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03-11-2010, 08:43 AM	#10
TheNewGuy Admin/Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 18,047	Re: g16 frame ground I agree with breugel, do it right and ground to the battery.
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