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Old 05-21-2010, 07:49 PM   #1
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Default The CLONE engine setup & specs thread

If you have the 16hp even the 13hp, how about we get some details here to make it easier for others? Would like to see yamaha install but anyone is welcome lots of common issues with hookups and clutches. Would really like to hear how they run/sound/pull/etc!

Maybe some/all the following:

-What clutch did you use?
-motor mount & what cart is it?
-RPM or speed you get & tire size
-Power assessment?
-fuel pump/cable hook up/etc install, stock or engine starter, muffler, airbox?
-problems you encountered
-your recommendations
-anyone happen to compare the 16 to a V-twin just for fun? (TheNewGuy)

Pretty sure I'll be doing two G9 soon as other pressing projects are out of the way. Want to run the stock starter due to how I use mine and it has to be quiet. I may get the elec start engine anyway for the price for future uses. Thinking about the adapter and modding the clutch with some kind of spring, I'm sick of the mellow take offs and all it needs is a spring otherwise good clutch. Then, yes a car muffler or similar. I would put a cutout on it but singles sound ugly to me anyway, so all I want to hear is the whoosh of the cooling fan and spinning tires, lol....the wheelie bars hitting the ground....OK maybe I went a little too far.

I can weld anything this should be fun. If I have time I will mod my old lift some too and widen the front.

Original clone thread I found here, but not necessarily for yamaha
http://www.buggiesgonewild.com/big-b...ne-thread.html
Another yami thread
http://www.buggiesgonewild.com/gas-y...-question.html
Another clone thread on how they run
http://www.buggiesgonewild.com/big-b...hp-clonda.html
TheNewGuy drops a clone and a trans into his fantastic Jeep project:
http://www.buggiesgonewild.com/membe...-geep1-23.html
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Old 05-21-2010, 08:26 PM   #2
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Default Re: The CLONE engine setup & specs thread

I aint got a yamma hopper, but im gonna watch this thread for my clone swap one day
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Old 05-22-2010, 10:54 AM   #3
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Default Re: The CLONE engine setup & specs thread

Ya Ron, What's your comperisson between the 16 Clone and the 18 Vangaurd?
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Old 05-22-2010, 04:14 PM   #4
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Default Re: The CLONE engine setup & specs thread

Was digging and found this, performance parts and a 30hp GX390 lol!
http://www.parsonsracingengines.com/page/engines

Also found this site that has performance parts for it too
http://www.affordablegokarts.com/mm5...ory_Code=GBPK9

I emailed one about a high rev kit for carts, they are running like 6,000 rpm no problem but not sure how much stuff they changed. 5K rpm in a cart would give great speed. Also one place says just machine the key down to advance timing.

One also has a cheap spacer ($10 iirc) to get a signal from the intake to run the fuel pump. There is another one that is large like one inch thick, they say it adds power at all rpm because it makes the intake longer.
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Old 05-23-2010, 07:31 PM   #5
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Default Re: The CLONE engine setup & specs thread

The v-twin runs much smoother, is quicker off the line and has about 10 mph more than the clone 16. Checked both carts today with a gps, the clone tops out at 29-30 mph and the v-twin at 40-41 mph. The clone has 22" tires and the v-twin 24". Both have CVTech clutches from CPP also CPP engine mounting cradles, the one for the Geep1 I had to modify a bit. I like the v-twin better but so far happy with the clone.

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Old 06-28-2010, 02:12 PM   #6
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I ordered a red 16HP here, it is sort of local will get it in one day. They give a little discount for ordering over the phone but I had to pay tax was about 380 delivered w/tax. But I can drive over there if I have problems with it. They also list on ebay. I think this is the same as the blue engine best I can gather except the gas tank shape/etc. Going to try one and see then I'll do my cart too. They also have a 10hp diesel and trying to get a v twin diesel later this summer. He says the 10hp has a lot more torque than the gas engine it might work in a cart. Said his prices have to go up a little soon here.
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Trying to order the clutch adapter and fuel pump intake adapter.
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Old 06-29-2010, 05:27 PM   #7
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Wow, Fedex pulled up today and I have an engine. Its on its way to the lake right now I'll be screwing with it this weekend. Anyone know the differences between the blue and red engines aside from the gas tank? Guy said this has 3 amp charging but I'm using the car generator as well, said I can get another coil to add behind the flywheel but didn't know what it put out.
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I ordered a red 16HP here, it is sort of local will get it in one day. They give a little discount for ordering over the phone but I had to pay tax was about 380 delivered w/tax. But I can drive over there if I have problems with it. They also list on ebay. I think this is the same as the blue engine best I can gather except the gas tank shape/etc. Going to try one and see then I'll do my cart too. They also have a 10hp diesel and trying to get a v twin diesel later this summer. He says the 10hp has a lot more torque than the gas engine it might work in a cart. Said his prices have to go up a little soon here.
http://www.carrollstream.net/servlet/StoreFront
http://www.carrollstream.net/servlet...ne-With/Detail



Trying to order the clutch adapter and fuel pump intake adapter.
diesel would be cool.....but the rpms might be disapointing.
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Old 06-29-2010, 05:46 PM   #9
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Default Re: The CLONE engine setup & specs thread

sho--will you be using the fuel tank on the engine or the cart tank?
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Old 06-29-2010, 05:56 PM   #10
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Wow, Fedex pulled up today and I have an engine. Its on its way to the lake right now I'll be screwing with it this weekend. Anyone know the differences between the blue and red engines aside from the gas tank? Guy said this has 3 amp charging but I'm using the car generator as well, said I can get another coil to add behind the flywheel but didn't know what it put out.
Cool I think the blue engine is faster!! just kidding!

How are you going to turn the car generator....are you running a stock clutch with the pulley built in?

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