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Old 05-07-2013, 02:38 PM   #1
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I have a few questions as I am getting my cart together to actually take to some races this year:

1. I have to have insurance -any recommendations GEICO is 91 bucks for a year full coverage, and 90 for liability but 99% of the time the cart is at my house so covered under Home Owners.

2. I am installing a fold down seat - do I need new springs or new shocks with springs?

3. I want to perform a tune up and have the following questions:

a. Belt looks fine but I don't know anything about age, when should it be replaced, and is it worth going with a stiffer belt like the plowmans?

b. When changing the Oil now that the cart is lifted 6" tilting the motor, does that change the amount of oil needed? What is the right amount?

c. Is one plug better than the other? Same for the air filter? I see kits on EBay and they range in price but don't really tell you what manf. they are.

d. I am adding the plowmans posi unit, again as question B above, with the lift should I level the rear to get the 1.6 in it? Also, I am adding back synthetic trans fluid per plowman.

4. I did make another post asking about the 6" Lift creating a minor toe out on the front and I see no adjustment. Am I missing something?


I know I should have done all of this in the winter but I had bikes to work on.... but who am I kidding , didn't work on them either so trying to do it all at once sucks and time is limited~

Thanks very much and happy trails!!
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Old 05-08-2013, 06:40 AM   #2
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Most home owners don't cover carts and stuff like that or at least Allstate don't.
They do make H/D for the rear but I'd try it first.
Clutches and belt are everything when you have 2/4 people and need to pull hills.
My G-20 takes 1 qt. only then mark the dip stick and go by your mark.
I use NGK, everyone has there own opinion.
You turn the tie rod on R or L side using tape measure and straight edge on front and back.
What ever Don @ Plowman says is good in my book. I have their air filter, jet kit and they told me what to do to my air box, clutch spring and belt and my cart works great.
Just talk to Don he will help you with all this stuff.
Hope this helps!!!!! LURCH!!!!!
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Old 05-08-2013, 07:32 AM   #3
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d. I am adding the plowmans posi unit, again as question B above, with the lift should I level the rear to get the 1.6 in it? Also, I am adding back synthetic trans fluid per plowman.

Be sure to post up pics of this when you do it. It might help some folks out--me included. I've been thinking about doing this.

I installed the severe duty double cogged belt from CCP and it really helped stock engine performance on the low end. Plowman's has a similar belt, also. Get a new one and be done with it for awhile. Money well spent
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Old 05-08-2013, 07:43 AM   #4
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Most home owners don't cover carts and stuff like that or at least Allstate don't.
They do make H/D for the rear but I'd try it first.
Clutches and belt are everything when you have 2/4 people and need to pull hills.
My G-20 takes 1 qt. only then mark the dip stick and go by your mark.
I use NGK, everyone has there own opinion.
You turn the tie rod on R or L side using tape measure and straight edge on front and back.
What ever Don @ Plowman says is good in my book. I have their air filter, jet kit and they told me what to do to my air box, clutch spring and belt and my cart works great.
Just talk to Don he will help you with all this stuff.
Hope this helps!!!!! LURCH!!!!!
Thanks for the response - I really expected a few more responses but guess no one has time to help out a newbie! lol - I have a couple questions still:

* I am going to pick up the insurance.
* I already raised the cart, so the question is, does the lean angle change the mark on the dip stick? I can mark it but that doesn't tell me if it has enough initial oil. I guess my thought is, if it leans away from the pick up would there be a need to "overfill" to get the proper amount over it?
* On the H/D rear, I feel that with the weight of the seat and the possibility of 4 riders it will need the additional support. I noticed that with the seat on it will be a pain to get to the top shock struts so I was going to do it before I put the seat on. Are the complete shock struts needed, or just springs? the stock shock appears to be pretty strong still.
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Old 05-08-2013, 07:57 AM   #5
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Be sure to post up pics of this when you do it. It might help some folks out--me included. I've been thinking about doing this.

I installed the severe duty double cogged belt from CCP and it really helped stock engine performance on the low end. Plowman's has a similar belt, also. Get a new one and be done with it for awhile. Money well spent
Will do - I find that the instructions assume a lot. Looks like they could show you just a couple more steps to tiddy it up. I figured them out from looking at some pictures posted here. Example, the instructions tell you to cut a support bar at one end (I don't have it but the pictures are of a battery cart so maybe its different) but after you cut it, they don't tell you what to do to repair it, or put it back etc...
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Old 05-08-2013, 01:39 PM   #6
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On the dip stick you need to drain and fill it with 1 qt and then mark it. Do not add extra oil. On the shocks I really can't tell you I would call and check what these places sell, I changed both front and rear to adj. coil overs. If you go with the H/D and don't need them it will ride like a sled. You should be able to adj. the toe in with the tie rods.
Don't know what you are talking about, cutting a bar. You might fill me in a little or I just missed it. This place is great for help sometimes it just takes awhile for the right ones to see it and reply. I read a lot on here but if I don't know for sure I want post. Keep checking in if you still have questions and do post some pic's.
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Old 05-08-2013, 01:51 PM   #7
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This was my first cart and although I have worked on cars and motorcycles all my life it would have been almost impossible for me to do what I have without help from these guys on here. Check out my build search under LURCH to see where I started. Just take your time and call and talk to people if you don't know.
Tom at CPP and Don at Plowmans are both the best on Yamaha's and should have anything you would need.
I'm getting ready to change the engine in mine to a 992 cc V-twin which is all new to me, but I've been buying parts for over a year now and hope to get started some time this summer. Good luck with your build!!!!!
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Old 05-08-2013, 09:33 PM   #8
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Flaw I insured mine with Farmers, $75. a yr. One qt. only. Genuine Yamaha parts, but I did use ysPlowman drive belt. 1/16" toe in is imperative to have a good handing car. I built a G22 on page 444 in "The G8 Club" if you want to look.
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Old 05-09-2013, 08:27 AM   #9
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Hey all -
Thanks for the responses. I called the MAN, Don at Plowman's and he is walking me down the right path I assume and into a clutch rebuild and a performance kit to go with my Posi-Kit. Waiting on the clutch puller as I type this. Guess that is a TUNE UP

I screwed up on saying "Toe" it is actually the "camber" that is out.
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Old 05-09-2013, 08:43 AM   #10
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Alot of times if you set the toe it will help the camber. Don used to sell some type of reworked front shock that would fix the camber, I think.
Thats why I went from reg. 6" lift to the Long Travel so I could adj. caster and camber!!!
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