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Old 05-07-2014, 06:42 PM   #1
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Default G2 secondary clutch spring preload?

Hey guys. I installed a G2 rear end in my G1 along with a clone motor and I have been using the stock G1 spring in the G2 clutch and I believe it is geared a little low for my liking. I was doing some searching on here and several people have suggested using the stock G2 spring on setting B-2. Can someone please tell me what that means? I know the clutch has holes in it to hold the tips of the spring but are the holes labeled with numbers and letters? What about preload? Does using the B-2 setting preload the spring? I don't have my cart with me now and won't get to work on it until this weekend when I go to camp. I'm just trying to get a better understanding of what this B-2 setting is. Thanks
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Old 05-08-2014, 07:24 AM   #2
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I can't find any info on this either Gary. The holes must have letter/number designations on some models. Can't seem to find any pics though. The preload comes when you insert the spring into the hole, you spin the moveable sheave one direction to wind the spring up, not sure on the direction though. Wonder how many turns to spin it?

I'm using the Plowman's G1 clutch right now, it runs really good, but I'm wondering if I'm leaving some acceleration on the table? Anxious to see what your results are.
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Old 05-08-2014, 03:32 PM   #3
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Default Re: G2 secondary clutch spring preload?

The holes for the spring tangs on the spring seat and sliding sheave are labeled with the numbers and letters. Numbers on one, letters on the other (can't remember off the top of my head which is which). B-2 simply indicates hole B on one end and hole 2 on the other.
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Nice. I'll have to take a look at mine.
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I can't find any info on this either Gary. The holes must have letter/number designations on some models. Can't seem to find any pics though. The preload comes when you insert the spring into the hole, you spin the moveable sheave one direction to wind the spring up, not sure on the direction though. Wonder how many turns to spin it?

I'm using the Plowman's G1 clutch right now, it runs really good, but I'm wondering if I'm leaving some acceleration on the table? Anxious to see what your results are.
Using the stock G1 spring seems to hold it in low gear. It's very responsive but with the clone motor installed I don't think I need a spring that stiff. The clone motor itself should be able to hold its own as far as torque goes. I'm gonna give the G2 spring a shot over the weekend and will post the results.
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:23 AM   #6
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Default Re: G2 secondary clutch spring preload?

I have a spare G2 clutch just begging me to give it a try! LOL I'll see how you do with yours, if it makes a difference, I'll switch mine out.
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I can't find any info on this either Gary. The holes must have letter/number designations on some models. Can't seem to find any pics though. The preload comes when you insert the spring into the hole, you spin the moveable sheave one direction to wind the spring up, not sure on the direction though. Wonder how many turns to spin it?

I'm using the Plowman's G1 clutch right now, it runs really good, but I'm wondering if I'm leaving some acceleration on the table? Anxious to see what your results are.
You wind it CW, 1/3 of a turn, I believe. I don't think you'll be able to wind it more than that...
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Default Re: G2 secondary clutch spring preload?

I installed the G2 spring this weekend and I like the results. Just like others have mentioned, B-2 seems to be the sweet spot with the Big Block set up. Basically I have more torque throughout all rpm range. With the G1 spring installed it would take off strong then upshift hard and the torque seemed to drop off quickly. I'm happy with the change.
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This is good info!
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The preload causes it to run higher rpm at part throttle and to downshift faster (since its already higher rpm also). This is ideal for trail use, it works little better to have more preload. However with a clone or other larger engine unless you have huge tires and serious offroad riding the larger engine typically has more torque and does not need to rev at part throttle that much, so many go back to a stock spring with a larger engine. I have a umax in my clone and it works great on the trail but revs around houses. I have no preload at all on it now and its not bad but it can short shift when you spin and lower rpm a little because of that. I want to get a new spring stock and try it, my old one is toast. When I come home late I want it quieter lol. On trails the umax rules, its a yamaha utility spring, its longer and stronger than stock, and about half way to max speed it starts to work much like stock, below that the rpm is always higher except WOT is about the same.

Yes you can wind a lot of preload if you want, and it will stay at WOT rpm all the time. The cart will not move faster until it revs high, it will not shift out at all. Its noisy and takes a lot more fuel. The holes are at different degrees so you can preload more/less degrees of rotation on the spring, the B2 is just the yamaha stock setting which is good all around setting. If you drive along at say a steady 10mph, more preload will make it rev more while you do that.
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