Lift Kit Fab 202

jwise · 01-07-2009, 09:40 PM

ok layed out drop axle for my marathon, 4 degrees camber but what about caster? also just to make sure im using 23 inch tires 8" or 6" ? also on the steering arm from the pitman arm to the steering arm mine angles front to back alot but it is level so if i make a drop arm for it shoud i make it square like a car i know it needs to be level or ill get bump steer? and last you can see i angled the axle ahead like the drawing i got thats why im wondering if i need 8

jim

ruredy · 01-08-2009, 07:51 AM

Angling your axle ahead like that then 6" should work for 23"s but it's real close to hitting the body of the cart when turning. If this axle is bolted to marathon springs it will be angled toward the back (neg. caster) unless you account for this in the making/changing the axle mounting pads or spindle mounts. If you use front txt springs i'll push your weldment/axle out about 2" so you wouldn't have to have the funky bend in the axle. also you won't have it angling to the back at the bottom because the springs have a slight bend that levels out where the weldment mounts. I tend to use full length bolts and clamp the axle to the spring, this way you can adjust the caster angle by loosen/tighten the front and back bolts.

jwise · 01-10-2009, 11:02 PM

thanks ive been looking for springs but havent found them. i havent had time to build the axle anyway. long for the day i can work on my cart jim

crash12888 · 01-14-2009, 09:35 AM

That's the way I build mine. I did draw up trailing rods as well but never needed them.
The forward angle of the outer axle will eliminate wheel rub when turning. 6" lift with 23s shouldn't rub but that will also depend on the amount of travel you have in the suspension.

Notice the angle of the pad the spring bolts to? That helps get the neg 4 to 6 degrees "caster" you will like to track straight.
You can always wedge there after you get it assembled if you need more.
The "camber should be set at "0" (wheels straight up and down).
Toe should be 1/8 to 3/16" in

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jwise · 01-28-2009, 10:42 PM

ted and i are trying to figure out which year springs exactly for the txt will work thanks jim

jwise · 02-07-2009, 09:33 PM

ok made the lift this weekend i have camber issues but will fix. do they make longer tie rod ends? i widened the front 4 inches and need to widen steering linkage. will any txt springs fix the funky axle tuck to the rear? i will post a bunch of photos monday i have taken them for you guys. the axle seems to move front to back alot im thinking the radius rods might happen. jim

crash12888 · 02-08-2009, 10:22 PM

I'm sure someone makes them but it would be just as easy to cut the tierod and add a sleeve to the middle.

Can't wait for the pics

jwise · 02-09-2009, 11:31 AM

the ite rods are aluminum or i would be done already jim

jwise · 02-09-2009, 09:28 PM

ok they are steel ill widen them. i attached some pics for you guys. do the shocks help stabilize the front axle? it flops around right now. also i need to order front springs for a txt what year and model? jim

Quadmaster · 02-09-2009, 10:35 PM

You can go to a circle track shop and buy the right size aluminum tube and cut to length and thread to make longer tie rods. I used to build them for my mini quads all the time.
Radius rods are probable the way to go with that much axle lift. That's a lot of leverage. Looks good, keep um coming....

01-08-2009, 07:51 AM	#2
ruredy Born Wild Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Clover SC. Posts: 5,552	Re: Lift Kit Fab 202 Angling your axle ahead like that then 6" should work for 23"s but it's real close to hitting the body of the cart when turning. If this axle is bolted to marathon springs it will be angled toward the back (neg. caster) unless you account for this in the making/changing the axle mounting pads or spindle mounts. If you use front txt springs i'll push your weldment/axle out about 2" so you wouldn't have to have the funky bend in the axle. also you won't have it angling to the back at the bottom because the springs have a slight bend that levels out where the weldment mounts. I tend to use full length bolts and clamp the axle to the spring, this way you can adjust the caster angle by loosen/tighten the front and back bolts.

01-10-2009, 11:02 PM	#3
jwise Not Yet Wild Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 41	Re: Lift Kit Fab 202 thanks ive been looking for springs but havent found them. i havent had time to build the axle anyway. long for the day i can work on my cart jim
jwise Not Yet Wild Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 41

01-14-2009, 09:35 AM	#4
crash12888 Gone Crazy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chesterfield, Va Posts: 6,021	Re: Lift Kit Fab 202 That's the way I build mine. I did draw up trailing rods as well but never needed them. The forward angle of the outer axle will eliminate wheel rub when turning. 6" lift with 23s shouldn't rub but that will also depend on the amount of travel you have in the suspension. Notice the angle of the pad the spring bolts to? That helps get the neg 4 to 6 degrees "caster" you will like to track straight. You can always wedge there after you get it assembled if you need more. The "camber should be set at "0" (wheels straight up and down). Toe should be 1/8 to 3/16" in .

01-28-2009, 10:42 PM	#5
jwise Not Yet Wild Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 41	Re: Lift Kit Fab 202 ted and i are trying to figure out which year springs exactly for the txt will work thanks jim
jwise Not Yet Wild Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 41

02-07-2009, 09:33 PM	#6
jwise Not Yet Wild Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 41	Re: Lift Kit Fab 202 ok made the lift this weekend i have camber issues but will fix. do they make longer tie rod ends? i widened the front 4 inches and need to widen steering linkage. will any txt springs fix the funky axle tuck to the rear? i will post a bunch of photos monday i have taken them for you guys. the axle seems to move front to back alot im thinking the radius rods might happen. jim
jwise Not Yet Wild Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 41

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02-08-2009, 10:22 PM	#7
crash12888 Gone Crazy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chesterfield, Va Posts: 6,021	Re: Lift Kit Fab 202 I'm sure someone makes them but it would be just as easy to cut the tierod and add a sleeve to the middle. Can't wait for the pics

02-09-2009, 11:31 AM	#8
jwise Not Yet Wild Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 41	Re: Lift Kit Fab 202 the ite rods are aluminum or i would be done already jim
jwise Not Yet Wild Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 41

02-09-2009, 10:35 PM	#10
Quadmaster Gone Wild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Out past the Creek, Arizona Posts: 856	Re: Lift Kit Fab 202 You can go to a circle track shop and buy the right size aluminum tube and cut to length and thread to make longer tie rods. I used to build them for my mini quads all the time. Radius rods are probable the way to go with that much axle lift. That's a lot of leverage. Looks good, keep um coming....

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