Considering a new build

jseymfish

I have a '93 CC gasser that I've had for about 10 years. I'm kicking around the idea of starting from scratch with a newer stock cart.
The cart gets and equal amount of dirt road and offroad use so it takes a pretty good beating.

I would be wanting to remove the rev limiter, get a long travel lift and install heavy clutch springs to start with.

I would like to know what your opinions for what would be for the best brand cart, gas engine and lift to start with?

Thanks

BGW

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sho305

I think the 93 is std rotation that means you could swap the motor but you still have the 1" belt to deal with. You can do all that to the CC but if you want to swap the motor it is not the best, but better than newer CC with clockwise engines. If it were me I'd be looking for a G14 or newer yamaha though you have to watch some of the new drives had clutch issues. G9 is good cart too but getting old I think 95 or so is new as they went. You can get a dual arm lift not too much, if you have budget get a LT lift they ride better way better offroad. But the dual arm you can get other shocks for them and its an improvement. The cheap lifts you can't do much with and the dual arm is not that much more, the LT is double that. EZGO not as nicely built but you could go that way too there is a lot available for them. Both you can swap a clone into cheap, both have the 1 3/16 belt cvt. The real fun is with a swap you get near double the power, even if you only run a 420 clone you can get them for under 300 on sale. Maybe you don't plan to now or never will, so may not apply to you. Another factor is what you find in your area, some places have lots of one brand for sale some another, hard to say.

The yamaha you can put a umax spring in the secondary and they run pretty good with big tires, up to the drive they are different cvt and not sure what you do with them. The 357 is the best motor its in all newer yamaha, far as stock engines. Jakes tend to be the best lifts, allsports are pretty good. I think only jakes makes a real LT lift now, far as I know. Any spindle lift is not going to be that good unless its dual arm, possibly the strange CC front the spring is the other arm, but they are more complicated. Just my opinion and not the only way to do things.

jseymfish

Thanks for the info!

sho305

I say that because I ride offroad trails and seasonal roads and the clone is a ton of fun. It lets you spin the big tires a little, really makes the cart more capable of going up hills and through sand and all that. Its still not exactly scary and takes only a little more fuel, its worth every penny in fun and extra ability. I also do yard work and pull trailers around as well as running around locally. I've done a stock 420 and modded one, that one will have a VC cam and rod in it soon as I get it back together. The suspension you need more the faster you go, and the rougher terrain you run on.

BrewCityMusic

My two cents would be not to bother too much with that Club Car if You are REALLY going to be using the cart for HD riding, those 290's just don't have the torque or power needed (even w Governor Delete and the dreaded "Rev-Limiter Removal") regardless of clutching, etc. Swapping out with a VegasCarts kit is night and day (although as Sho pointed out, You will likely want to also swap to a 1 3/16" belt and driven clutch if You go that route) although You WILL be astounded at how much louder the cart will be. I have a G14 with a VegasCarts kit right now but have also built TXT's with them, the performance is really REALLY amazing but if You do the swap, say "goodbye" to letting anyone but the most cautious, responsible of drivers taking it for a ride - too dangerous. Out of the 3 Big Block builds we have sold since we started building them last summer, 2 of them have been wrecked, never by the actual owner. They're a bit of a handful if You don't respect the cart.

As to starting out w another cart, I also like the G14-22's *if* You go with Don Plowmans hop-up kits. The 301 and 357's are nice motors in their own right, reliable, etc but are definitely "thumpy" and somewhat rough-running, plus You have to wind them up a bit to get into the powerband, which is going to definitely involve clutch work, at a minimum.

The 295/350 EZGO's are MY choice if I'm doing carts for customers with more or less stock engines. Being a twin-cylinder, they are MUCH smoother, quieter, and have a wider, more useable powerband. As a bonus, if You go with the pre-2002 TXT, the Long-Travel kits do not require a steering box swap, so they're hundreds less than the kits for Yamaha or Club car (and nothing but NOTHING beats a Long-Travel kit for ride, handling, stability, safety, and overall FUN of driving). Throw a 28 degree clutch with a decent spring and shorter belt on a TXT with 23's and it will break the tires loose on loose gravel and muscle through FAR more terrain than the cart was built for.

Lastly, another thing to keep in mind is parts availability - the TXT has more aftermarket stuff available than any other cart except perhaps the DS and the parts tend to be cheaper than the counterparts for Yamaha. When it comes to engine and drivetrain components, EZGO stuff tends to be more accessible (IE not "dealer only" availability).

Whichever way You decide, I definitely would stick w Yamaha or TXT. Whatever You do stay AWAY (as in FAR FAR AWAY) from the 2008+ EZGO carts with the Kawasaki drivetrain, especially if You're going to put them through any REAL "paces" - too much that can and will break on them when pushed.

jseymfish

good info!