11-10-2018, 08:45 AM | #1 |
Gone Wild
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Radial rubbers
Anyone here running radial atv tires? Supposed to have less rolling resistance and longer wear. Both pluses with a sparky, no?
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11-10-2018, 06:16 PM | #2 | |
Gone Wild
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Location: West Columbia Texas
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Re: Radial rubbers
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I've put the road ventures on my last 2 builds. They ran 107each with free shipping. I think I got them from jegs. Smooth as all get out and very well balanced. I mounted the last set my self in the garage with some soap and pry bar. I couldn't be happier it took 3 months for the tits to wear off them. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk |
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11-10-2018, 07:44 PM | #3 |
Vegas modded 420
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Location: West MI
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Re: Radial rubbers
Those look awesome for a (mostly) road tire on a cart! I see people here running tires like that and many have BFG all terrains (I think) on UTV they street a lot instead of the UTV tires.
I know radials (the utv style) are used on UTV because they are much better balanced and more round. Bias tires tend to vibrate and be out of round at high speeds say 40 and more that UTV commonly run. They might be tougher as well far as hitting things, punctures, etc. And of course they cost more. Certainly an upgrade but not sure it would do much for you at low speeds in the real world on a cart (say 30mph max) and a high ply rating ATV tire has a good puncture resistance as well. They also make some cool tires only in radials. The truck tires can be a great deal like above. I run ATV tires because I go through a lot of sand and occasional mud and more floatation helps, and the wide semi soft ATV tires ride softer off road than a road tire. Without 4WD my cart goes off road better on big fat ATV type tires, while the 4x4 UTV can get away with truck tires better and not get stuck like I would. Of course the truck tires wear much better on hard surfaces I rarely run. |
11-10-2018, 07:49 PM | #4 | |
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Re: Radial rubbers
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11-10-2018, 09:06 PM | #5 |
Gone Wild
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Dundee quebec
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Re: Radial rubbers
Thanks for the info! Great looking rims too!!! My present rollers are mudlites, and while the traction was awesome they wore like $#it on the road. Now before I get the duhhs, I expected wear but they lugs wore uneven something wicked. Backside of the lugs almost gone and the leading edge almost new. Vibrate like crazy now and they were smooth when new. I run tractor tires on the road and radials wear evenly and a LOT slower than bias of the same size and axle load. Way smoother too. From what I've read, atv radials are much the same in wear and ride due to the carcass being thicker and less prone to squirming/deformation when meeting the tarmac. I am willing to sacrifice some traction in my next set for longer wear and a little less vibes when they do. But I am a farmer and was raised on dirt, mud and sh,,, er,, crap and have little tolerance for tires that don't "earn their keep" so to speak. Also my next set, I plan to put "rib", [2wd] tires on the front since they steer the best and my cart doesn't have 4wd or front brakes. Still undecided on rear grippers at the moment. Duro makes one for Kawa Mules in my size that might fit the bill. Not radial though. That's why I started this thread, to see if anyone here has experience with the new atv radials.
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11-10-2018, 11:31 PM | #6 |
Vegas modded 420
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Re: Radial rubbers
I've only run radials on UTV, they seem to work fine on there but hard to say what they do on a cart...I'm sure they would work as well or better.
Most people running roads and still want an off road tire are running a desert type tire. Many of them have tread more like a big mudder truck tire. The desert tires still kind of work in mud so-so, good in dirt, wear much better than mud tires on hard surfaces, smoother on roads. They are still an ATV type tire not a truck tire, still look off road. Goodyear rawhide RS for example, duro frontier, trilobites/bighorns, etc. Most of the 25 and larger are radials for utv. If you don't go in the mud and off road a lot I'm sure the truck road tires will last much longer for near the same price it looks like. |
11-13-2018, 09:12 AM | #7 |
Gone Wild
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Location: Central FL
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Re: Radial rubbers
Just a heads up, They ride extremely rougher in the bumper off road stuff. Also be honest with yourself, how much 40+ mph riding you gonna do in your golf cart???
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11-13-2018, 03:52 PM | #8 |
Crazy Ole Man
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Location: Owego NY
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Re: Radial rubbers
I run radial tires on my ride, 25-10-R12 rear 25-8-R12 front. I have about 1000 miles on my first set. There more of a road tire then mud but I haven't got stuck yet. https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-GBC-After...S!-1:rk:2:pf:0
My average speed is 30mph and so far the tires show no amount of wear. From my limited experience with these tires, I would say alignment is the most important step in setting up a new front tire change. My very first ride I could tell something was off, I'd take my foot off the throttle and the cart slowed faster then normal. It steered stiffly so I checked my toe in toe out and found it to be way toed out in the front. I corrected the toe in toe out to 1/8" toed inward. Now it rolls with no resistance and no wear. Reading what Dundee wrote about his tire wear -- there are some severe alignment issues that should be resolved before you start running new tires. |
11-13-2018, 06:08 PM | #9 |
Gone Wild
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Re: Radial rubbers
Thanks for the info/experiences. Thanks for the tip on alignment but my front end is spot on. No uneven wear on either side, in fact the rear tires wore exactly the same, you can't even tell which are which. The original question was if anyone was running off road radials. See, 5 of my farm tractors all ride on radials with 4 having R1W [deep] treads, and they wear the lugs very evenly and quite slowly as the casing does not allow the lugs to squirm when they meet the asphalt. They also run smooth compared to bias plys. Wondering if the ATV treads shared the same attributes. On that note I pulled the trigger today and FINALLY decided on a combination of bias/radials that I have not seen here yet. The fronts were purchased near me, Ottawa, and I had to call all the way to sunny California for the rears. Can hardly wait!
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11-22-2018, 02:39 PM | #10 |
Gone Wild
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Re: Radial rubbers
Got 'em mounted last night. Rears, I am very happy with, the fronts, while they steer awesome are not quite big enough. They are Duro 22x8xR10s and the height is spot on the width comes out at just under 7" Gonna run them a bit as they steer excellent on this "chilled steam" covering the ground at the moment.
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