wheels, 4x100 = 4 on 4

mjribeiro · 11-02-2007, 12:11 PM

Guys - silly question, but will wheels with patterns 4x100 fit on a cart? the conversion is 4 inch = 101.6 millimeter, I'm thinking the 1.6 mm is too small to matter.....

Monster Cart · 11-02-2007, 12:49 PM

It won't work, I have been there and tried it, Its enough that it won't let your lugs center out with the acorn side of the lugnut.

Xtreme Cartz · 11-02-2007, 02:17 PM

Monster Cart is right. You will need adapters to make it work.

crash12888 · 11-02-2007, 02:34 PM

If you have access to at least a two-axis CNC machine you could have the rims re-center bored in the same holes to a 4 on 4 pattern.
I believe the lugs are 17 degree angle but double check it. You would have to tighten the lugs by hand evenly to allow the nuts to center the rim before you torque.
Also depends if you have to pay to get it done how much verses the adapters.

mjribeiro · 11-02-2007, 02:36 PM

bummer - thank's guys.

What do you think of these for my CC, planning on a 6" lift.

BRAND: TITAN RIM DIAMETER: 12 inches
SIZE: 12 X 8.5 BOLT PATTERN: 4 on 4
CENTER HOLE OPENING: 2.50 INCHES
OFFSET: NEGATIVE BACKSPACING: 3.0 inches

This rim is 9.25 inches (over all) in width. 3.25 inches of the rim is to the inside & 5.75 inches to the outside. This helps keeps the tire and rim away from the frame and pushes the whole assembly out towards the outside of the mower . AWAY FROM THE FRAME ! Allowing for greater back space clearance under the mower for wider tires. This also creates a wider stance for the wheel base, helping to avoid roll over from being too narrow. WIDER IS BETTER. THESE ARE NEW HEAVY STEEL RIMS FOR COMMERCIAL QUALITY CONVENTIONAL AND ZERO TURN MOWERS.

crash12888 · 11-02-2007, 04:49 PM

Something like this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-12x8-5-Rim-Clu...QQcmdZViewItem

mjribeiro · 11-02-2007, 05:49 PM

yes that was them! I'm just concerned with the offset - it sounds like it's greater than the more common lifted cart wheels.

crash12888 · 11-02-2007, 06:57 PM

From what I read, with both 3X4 and 3X5 rims it's only a 1/4" more than usual, Just depends on how wide the foot print is on the tire.

11-02-2007, 12:11 PM	#1
mjribeiro Gone Wild Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Central NJ Posts: 248	wheels, 4x100 = 4 on 4 Guys - silly question, but will wheels with patterns 4x100 fit on a cart? the conversion is 4 inch = 101.6 millimeter, I'm thinking the 1.6 mm is too small to matter.....

11-02-2007, 12:49 PM	#2
Monster Cart Getting Wild Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Peoria, AZ Posts: 105	Re: wheels, 4x100 = 4 on 4 It won't work, I have been there and tried it, Its enough that it won't let your lugs center out with the acorn side of the lugnut.

11-02-2007, 02:17 PM	#3
Xtreme Cartz The Fabricator Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,016	Re: wheels, 4x100 = 4 on 4 Monster Cart is right. You will need adapters to make it work.

11-02-2007, 02:34 PM	#4
crash12888 Gone Crazy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chesterfield, Va Posts: 6,021	Re: wheels, 4x100 = 4 on 4 If you have access to at least a two-axis CNC machine you could have the rims re-center bored in the same holes to a 4 on 4 pattern. I believe the lugs are 17 degree angle but double check it. You would have to tighten the lugs by hand evenly to allow the nuts to center the rim before you torque. Also depends if you have to pay to get it done how much verses the adapters.

11-02-2007, 02:36 PM	#5
mjribeiro Gone Wild Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Central NJ Posts: 248	Re: wheels, 4x100 = 4 on 4 bummer - thank's guys. What do you think of these for my CC, planning on a 6" lift. BRAND: TITAN RIM DIAMETER: 12 inches SIZE: 12 X 8.5 BOLT PATTERN: 4 on 4 CENTER HOLE OPENING: 2.50 INCHES OFFSET: NEGATIVE BACKSPACING: 3.0 inches This rim is 9.25 inches (over all) in width. 3.25 inches of the rim is to the inside & 5.75 inches to the outside. This helps keeps the tire and rim away from the frame and pushes the whole assembly out towards the outside of the mower . AWAY FROM THE FRAME ! Allowing for greater back space clearance under the mower for wider tires. This also creates a wider stance for the wheel base, helping to avoid roll over from being too narrow. WIDER IS BETTER. THESE ARE NEW HEAVY STEEL RIMS FOR COMMERCIAL QUALITY CONVENTIONAL AND ZERO TURN MOWERS.

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11-02-2007, 04:49 PM	#6
crash12888 Gone Crazy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chesterfield, Va Posts: 6,021	Re: wheels, 4x100 = 4 on 4 Something like this? http://cgi.ebay.com/2-12x8-5-Rim-Clu...QQcmdZViewItem

11-02-2007, 05:49 PM	#7
mjribeiro Gone Wild Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Central NJ Posts: 248	Re: wheels, 4x100 = 4 on 4 yes that was them! I'm just concerned with the offset - it sounds like it's greater than the more common lifted cart wheels.

11-02-2007, 06:57 PM	#8
crash12888 Gone Crazy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chesterfield, Va Posts: 6,021	Re: wheels, 4x100 = 4 on 4 From what I read, with both 3X4 and 3X5 rims it's only a 1/4" more than usual, Just depends on how wide the foot print is on the tire.

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