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Old 07-26-2010, 10:24 AM   #11
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Old 07-26-2010, 12:14 PM   #12
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Got cart # 2 lifted today. The G-19 just seems to work MUCH better with the lift installed. The G-22 is just not growing on me the way I thought it would. Not sure if I like the bigger 14" wheels and the suspension seems to have some issues that will need working out....anyway...couple pics.

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Which kit is that?
Do you have any more pics / advice?
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Old 07-26-2010, 12:39 PM   #13
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The G-19 kit was the Jake's #6253 and it works really well. Super simple install, roughly 2-3 hours max. I am very happy with that lift kit.

No additional pics...sorry. The only thing I would probably recommend is pulling the front bodywork. While it is not 100% necessary, it does make it easier to work on. the roof and rear body work needs to come off for sure. To be honest, I didn't even read the destructions. Maybe it says that...haha
Overall, a simple project for a backyard mechanic and completely doable for a novice with basic hand tools.

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Old 07-26-2010, 01:35 PM   #14
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Thanks shmo !!

What size tires did you wind up going with?
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Old 07-26-2010, 02:58 PM   #15
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On the G-19 I used 22x11x12 Sahara Classic tires mounted on 12" wheels. They fit the cart well, with no rubbing or clearance issues.

I should clarify that I do not have a rear facing seat or utility bed on this cart. If your cart will be carrying loads heavier than just the 2 riders, you should consider stiffer springs on the rear to prevent the tires from rubbing the rear bumper.

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Old 07-27-2010, 08:14 PM   #16
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I spoke with Jake's today, and I have decided to try out one of their long travel kits for the front of the G-22. I think it might be a better match for my intended use for this cart. I am really looking forward to trying it out. I can make a point of detailing the install with pics, in anyone is interested.


I also received my G-max headlights today and got them installed. Super easy install, took less than an hour. I like the looks of these MUCH better than the typical rectangular shaped lights I installed on the G-19.

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Old 07-28-2010, 10:52 AM   #17
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Looks AWESOME man !!
Yeah - I'd love to see the install pics
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Well,

I have some good news and some bad news. First good news, I got my Jake's Long travel for the G-22 today. It shipped out quick and arrived as expected. Next good news, I bolted it in. Here is some bad news though. I only had my camera phone on hand to document it. The final bad news, they shorted me two bolts which kept me from completing it and testing it out, but I am not about to hold that against any small company who is banging out cool parts at reasonable prices. No harm no foul, It was getting late anyway. Besides, after seeing the kit first hand I know that I got plenty of product for the money.

So as promised, here is my little shake down on the nuts and bolts of Jake's long travel kit. It arrived well packaged and cared for. Parts quality looks good. The fit and finish is top notch. The instructions were basic, but appeared to be clear and concise. However to be honest, I only referenced them a couple times. The install was a cinch, taking me under 2 hours from start to finish. Keep in mind however, that I am in pretty good practice. I have had these carts apart several times in the last couple weeks, so I was able to gather my tools, put my head down and go. Also take into consideration that I have not yet adjusted anything, and this kit allows for a bunch of adjustability. You can tailor the ride height, shock angle, and shock preload. You can also dial in the camber, caster and toe. This is a real deal working suspension so it can be tailored to a lot of needs and preferences. The only real negative thing I can comment on is that I would like to have seen a zerk fitting or some way of maintaining the kingpin/spindle. It is just a bolt slipped through a spindle, no way to grease it without disassembling. One other MINOR thing, the powder coat needed to be drilled out on every hole. Anyone that has experience with stuff like this, knows that is completely routine. Just be aware of it and save yourself the hassle of taking two steps forward, only to take one step back. Chase a drill bit through everything so that bolts will pass through the openings before you start assembly. All in all, I am pretty pleased with the kit. I really look forward to testing it and seeing how the performance comes into play. I know it will work LIGHT YEARS BETTER than stock suspension., and ultimately that is the real bottom line.

Tomorrow I will get some travel numbers. I took some baselines during the assembly, but without the shocks, steering or body installed. I can assume roughly what it will be, but I won't post it until I can verify.

Here is the pics and a little overview of the install. I hope you enjoy

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Old 08-05-2010, 02:45 AM   #19
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The body was removed, as well as the bumper, wheels, shocks/spindle assembly, tie rod ends, wheel hubs, rack and pinion, and A-frames. It comes apart fast and easy.




Next the the Jake's hanger assembly (don't know what else to call it) was slipped into place and loosely bolted. This item has a skid plate/bar that runs under the front suspension. Good insurance item that Jake's incorporated here. It also has a receiver hitch, don't know why, but hey...maybe a place for one of those chrome propeller deals...haha... Actually, it would probably be a great place for a removable winch mount for your guys so inclined.



A plate gets installed that ties the front together and acts as the new upper shock mount. Again, just loosely bolted into place



The lower A-arms and extended tie rods and new tie rod ends get installed. the tie rods are swaged aluminum, same thing that is found on most race car applications. The A-arms are secured with Heims.



Upper A-arms go in. A slight bit of clearancing was required on mine, the mount nearest the tie rods. That part is mentioned in the instructions. A few swipes with a flapper wheel on my grinder took care of it. I hit it with a few coats of bomb can...anal...what can I say.



Next go in the upper shock hangers. They used a bolt in bracket so that the shock is captured with a double shear mount. It is also moveable. Clean, simple and effective. The shocks were installed, as well as the spindles and wheel hubs. That is pretty much it. Bolt on the wheels, make any suspension adjustments and throw the body on. It's done.



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Old 08-05-2010, 02:53 AM   #20
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I should have noted the placement of the wheels before I started, but mine already had a Jakes spindle lift on it, so I was not able to reference it. Obviously the track width is considerably wider with the long travel, several inches wider. Spacers will be needed in the rear to balance it out. Also, the long travel lengthens the wheelbase as well. How much, I did not measure. I am sure moves the spindles forward in the chassis a couple inches, if not more. Hopefully the guys from jake's will chime in here to give us some exact figures.

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