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Old 12-31-2011, 03:05 PM   #1
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Default Nice Long Travel carts

The set-up on the g1 is something I am considering doing on my g2. It is similar to a twin I-beam Ford suspension. It also has a 580cc Rotax snowmobile motor. It was for sale for like $3000 or less on www.dezertrangers.com The black cart is a sparky 48V I think. Places like Phoenix or so-cal areas have some great deals on carts and parts...
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Old 01-01-2012, 12:13 AM   #2
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Default Re: Nice Long Travel carts

I know those twin I beam trucks have a pretty loyal following so they must be good off road? I have a G1 with Jake's 6" kit and am considering a long travel to eliminate the camber issues that the king pin set up presents. Doesn't the twin I beam still have king pins? If so, there wouldn't there be a considerable amount of negative camber / \ when the suspension compresses? That can lead to bump steer and bump steer at speed can be dangerous, especially in a golf cart. Just my two cents...
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Old 01-01-2012, 09:13 AM   #3
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Default Re: Nice Long Travel carts

Stock Yami front-ends are basically a Twin-Traction design,except that they don't intesect.They have a king-pin also.The whole trick is to keep your steering as flat as possible at rest,and maintain your stock camber-angle at rest,with the cart at normal load(driver,etc.. that are normally on it).If the shocks are too soft,this will dramatically change things,and let the wheels twist badly when you back-up(transfers all the weight to the front).The advantage of the longer,intersecting arms is travel increase.Shock-Mounting also affects things.Hope this helps.
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Old 01-01-2012, 10:37 AM   #4
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Sounds complicated. Wouldn't a dual a arm atv type suspension solve all the problems assoc. with camber? and still have the benefits of long travel, assuming they are long enough to get the travel?

When I think long travel, I think of this...


To get max travel from dual a arms it's critical to get the pivot points as close to center and as close to each other as possible. This also helps eliminate bump steer.
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Old 01-01-2012, 10:44 AM   #5
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Having upper and lower A arms can solve the camber issue with vertical travel
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Old 01-01-2012, 02:00 PM   #6
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Default Re: Nice Long Travel carts

If I were to do my cart over, I would build a long travel Chromoly IFS like the one pictured on the right. There are benefits and drawbacks to the system shown on the left. Some of the drawbacks are increased unsprung weight, potentially complicated geometry (considering the upper arm mounting location, etc. The system shown on the right seems straight forward and easier (to me) to construct. That's my $0.02. Let us know what you decide to do and show us your build!

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Old 01-01-2012, 04:57 PM   #7
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Default Re: Nice Long Travel carts

The Twin-Traction style is a tried and true system.It works,period.If you want a simple,high travel setup,build it like that.Older off-road race trucks ran it years ago(desert and stadium trucks).The whole key is proper coil-selection and steering layout.Build-it,tweak-it,Wheel the heck out of it,you'll love it!!
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Old 01-01-2012, 08:41 PM   #8
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The only reason I am considering the twin i-beam set-up is due to the fact that it is simple, strong, and effective. Yes, dual a-arm suspensions are far superior in design and function, but the cost to make a good working i-beam suspension is a lot cheaper and offsets the benefits of an expensive a-arm conversion in my opinion.

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Old 01-03-2012, 07:40 PM   #9
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Are you looking for something for spirited trail riding or are you jumping it in the dunes?

I'd think if you are jumping it, the twin beam suspension will give you the most travel, right?
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Old 01-04-2012, 02:12 PM   #10
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Default Re: Nice Long Travel carts

Here is the long travel set up that was customized for my EZ-GO. This thing can go over a lot of terrain and I've had it in the air a few times and it lands very smoothly.
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