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Old 01-24-2012, 11:26 AM   #1
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Default Yamaha G16a help please

I have been here a short time, but sure have learned a lot. But more knowledge sometimes leads to confusion, kind of like in this case. I am not a big thread starter, but feel I need to in this case.

Just purchased a G16a Saturday, and it is in pretty decent shape. I put a plug in it, drained the bad gas, changed all the rubber lines, changed oil and adjusted the lifters. Motor has 170 lbs. of cranking compression!

Now I want to make it nice. I now have the body off, along with the roof etc. thanks to a helpful thread on here.

I am going to use this cart down in southern Missouri at Table Rock lake, so I need more clearance.

I think I may have looked at every lift kit offered, and there sure are a lot of them!

Why would a person go with the double A arm, and what are the advantages or disadvantges over the other type of lift kit?

I am not going to be doing in serious crazy stuff, but want to be able to clear large pot holes, ruts, etc. What is the best package of wheels and lift kit for the money?

Thanks in advance for your help!
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Old 01-24-2012, 09:09 PM   #2
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Congrats on your purchase! For the most part, the long travel IFS kits will give a smoother ride compared to a drop axle or drop spindles. This improved ride (and handling) comes at a premium in the form of higher cost. From what I've read, the drop axles are a bit more rugged than the drop spindles. Both will give about the same lift and widening effect on the front end.

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Old 01-25-2012, 11:03 AM   #3
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Congrats on your purchase! For the most part, the long travel IFS kits will give a smoother ride compared to a drop axle or drop spindles. This improved ride (and handling) comes at a premium in the form of higher cost. From what I've read, the drop axles are a bit more rugged than the drop spindles. Both will give about the same lift and widening effect on the front end.

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Thanks Kelly! When I look at the Jakes kit, even though it is listed as a double A arm, it looks a lot different than some of the others out there that have very obvious double tubular a arms.
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Old 01-25-2012, 11:23 AM   #4
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Thanks Kelly! When I look at the Jakes kit, even though it is listed as a double A arm, it looks a lot different than some of the others out there that have very obvious double tubular a arms.
Were you looking at the double A-arm long travel kit? Jakes sells several different types of lift kits. I have a modified Jakes double A arm long travel lift kit and I love it.

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Old 01-25-2012, 11:41 AM   #5
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Were you looking at the double A-arm long travel kit? Jakes sells several different types of lift kits. I have a modified Jakes double A arm long travel lift kit and I love it.

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Well, Duh, my bad!

I finally found the place on their site where they break them out, and no I wasn't looking at the right kit from Jakes. It is over double the money. The one they quote in their packages is obviously a spindle kit. It is about $300, and there are some other long tubular a arm kits out their for $300, guess that is where my confusion was coming from.

The Jakes long travel kit looks really nice, and everyone has nice things to say about them.
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Old 01-29-2012, 02:24 PM   #6
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Well, Duh, my bad!

I finally found the place on their site where they break them out, and no I wasn't looking at the right kit from Jakes. It is over double the money. The one they quote in their packages is obviously a spindle kit. It is about $300, and there are some other long tubular a arm kits out their for $300, guess that is where my confusion was coming from.

The Jakes long travel kit looks really nice, and everyone has nice things to say about them.
Check with jake's I was told spindle lift kits do not work on G16, they just tear up the bushings
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I have an all sports double a arm kit on my g16, it rides fairly well, not as good as a long travel kit i suppose, but it does well for the cost. I went with the double as opposed to a jakes single kit because i didnt want steering suffering as bad from camber changes between loaded and unloaded. My cart might just have 1 or 2 people on it when camping, but it hauls hay and firewood around here and the front end might be unloaded pretty good, it also pulls duty flying through fields and pasture. I might have just been overthinking though, I have never ridden on one with a jakes kit. The only thing I would like to change is finding longer coilover shocks for the rear and doing away with the spacer setup they use for rear lift.
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Check with jake's I was told spindle lift kits do not work on G16, they just tear up the bushings
Correct. We do not make a spindle kit for the Yamaha G16 models because the factory a-arm design would be very hard on the bushings. This is why we make all of our G2-G21 lift kits with an a-arm design.
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Old 01-31-2012, 08:45 AM   #9
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I have an all sports double a arm kit on my g16, it rides fairly well, not as good as a long travel kit i suppose, but it does well for the cost. I went with the double as opposed to a jakes single kit because i didnt want steering suffering as bad from camber changes between loaded and unloaded. My cart might just have 1 or 2 people on it when camping, but it hauls hay and firewood around here and the front end might be unloaded pretty good, it also pulls duty flying through fields and pasture. I might have just been overthinking though, I have never ridden on one with a jakes kit. The only thing I would like to change is finding longer coilover shocks for the rear and doing away with the spacer setup they use for rear lift.
Great info, thanks very much. I think that is the one I finally pulled the trigger on due to all my confusion. I got a pretty good deal with the polished wheels and 22 inch tires.

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Check with jake's I was told spindle lift kits do not work on G16, they just tear up the bushings
Wow, glad to learn this now. I pulled the trigger last week, just couldn't afford the $700, and everyone said to stay away from spindle kits. Now I know why.

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Correct. We do not make a spindle kit for the Yamaha G16 models because the factory a-arm design would be very hard on the bushings. This is why we make all of our G2-G21 lift kits with an a-arm design.
I really appreciate the input. I didn't have the $700 for the lift kit on this one, but will plan on it for my next one. This cart is kind of a indoctrination into the hobby for me anyway. I pretty well finished up the body work last night, and it is ready for a few coats of polyester primer tonight.
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Old 02-06-2012, 11:02 AM   #10
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Does anyone have a picture of the rear install of the all sports lift kit?

The directions were very weak, on the rear part. The sway bar extension can go on several ways, as well as the H bar mount.

The front was pretty self explanitory.

Drove it around a little yesterday, and the wheel base changed a little from side to side in the rear, so obviously I have something wrong.

thanks for your help!
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