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Unread 07-31-2014, 07:08 AM   #71
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Unread 08-03-2014, 10:07 PM   #72
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Monroe Air shocks Video.

They work better when you set them up for individual Fill, not 2-1.
They work good up to a point, depending on how light the buggy is and what kind of Riding you do. If you set them up for a single light weight adult, it will throw off the ride if you put in 2 Heavy Adults and you'll have to play with the PSI Again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6hK...ZZdz4eOHL8jVLg

I tried reservoirs and didn't like the response. It was too hard to determine how much actual PSI i had in the Shock.
Rethread to match the thread pitch, Use JBweld to seal it up.
Also, the Stock clamps are fairly weak if you over fill. Cut off and add an industrial Hose Clamp.




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Unread 08-04-2014, 09:41 PM   #73
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Hollywood what kind of buggy is that?
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Unread 08-06-2014, 12:12 AM   #74
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Started as a Broke Joyner with a 35Vanguard and Super-Kart FNR Trans.
I rebuilt the Chassis to Long Travel 14" travel all around. Only thing left Joyner is the center Floor section and firewall with the Vin Tag. Does well for a budget build and Im really impressed with how much the 35HP puts out with the DIY Mods I've done.

I replaced the Monroe Air shocks with Fox Airs 2.0. The Monroes were to tough to Tune with different Passenger weight variables.
If you do use the Monroes, Mount them as close to the Spindle or rear hub as Possible. If they are mounted closer in, there will be too much leverage for the amount of Max PSI that they take.
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I'm coming from a jeep background and just getting into carts since I have 2 kids now. I'm not really understanding the limiting straps set at ride height. On a jeep they're set right before max shock length to keep from damaging a shock when an axle droops to max travel. This also comes into play when jumping and completely unloading the suspension. Am I correct in assuming your carts are set for 100% up travel and no down? I keep reading about 19" extended length shocks with the same length limiting straps. I may be wrong and jeep suspension dynamics don't apply to carts, but it's got to ride horrible snapping that limiting strap tight on every suspension rebound. I'm in the process of building an Ezgo Txt and trying to learn as much about long travel as I can. Unless I'm wrong, which I may be since this is my first cart, I'm planning on mine being a little different. I'm planning on running coil overs set at 18" with an extended length of 22" and collapsed of 12". With this setup I'm looking at around a 21" limiting strap to keep from overextending the shock. Do I need to completely change what I'm planning?


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Unread 08-18-2014, 07:53 AM   #76
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I am using my straps to control my ride height. My shocks are not topped out and the straps have slack in them when you are on the cart. The ride is 10 times better than the leaf springs and now it is adjustable. Not taking it off any jumps or climbing rocks anytime soon. I run my shocks at 90psi and they work perfect for the riding I do, which is mostly pavement.
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I'm coming from a jeep background and just getting into carts since I have 2 kids now. I'm not really understanding the limiting straps set at ride height. On a jeep they're set right before max shock length to keep from damaging a shock when an axle droops to max travel. This also comes into play when jumping and completely unloading the suspension. Am I correct in assuming your carts are set for 100% up travel and no down? I keep reading about 19" extended length shocks with the same length limiting straps. I may be wrong and jeep suspension dynamics don't apply to carts, but it's got to ride horrible snapping that limiting strap tight on every suspension rebound. I'm in the process of building an Ezgo Txt and trying to learn as much about long travel as I can. Unless I'm wrong, which I may be since this is my first cart, I'm planning on mine being a little different. I'm planning on running coil overs set at 18" with an extended length of 22" and collapsed of 12". With this setup I'm looking at around a 21" limiting strap to keep from overextending the shock. Do I need to completely change what I'm planning?


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He is running the limiting straps to keep the Monroe air shocks from maxing out, which will cause them to fail prematurely. This is a common issue with these air shocks when you run their pressure high and they end up fully extended.
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Gotcha. The straps are only there to keep the shocks from maxing out and destroying them. The 19" straps and 19" ride height are only unloaded measurements. With the cart loaded (people on it) ride height settles to more like 16" giving 3" of down travel.


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Unread 08-19-2014, 08:19 PM   #79
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So what is the limiting factor to doing this same thing with coilover springs? If you choose the right springs it would support the load just the same. I guess the only problem is when additional weight is added (rear passengers). Never mind, I answered my own question.
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