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Old 09-16-2019, 12:44 AM   #1
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Default Allied Lithium batteries?

I have a 36v ezgo txt and the FLA batteries are on their last legs. In looking into lithium I found the batteries in the link below. My questions are does anybody have experience with them? Are they good quality? The price seem cheaper then other lithium batteries I’ve seen which concerns me.
We use the cart in a gated mobile home park with some hills but never drive more than 10-15 miles a day. Will 50 or 60ah be enough range? We are also in Arizona so hot dry weather most of the year. How do lithium batteries do in heat?

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

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Old 09-16-2019, 06:26 AM   #2
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Default Re: Allied Lithium batteries?

Doesnt seem too bad for someone who doesnt wanna build their own system. 50ah 36v setup with charger around 1700. I built my leaf setup 48v for 1200 and that was everything

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Old 09-16-2019, 11:12 AM   #3
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Default Re: Allied Lithium batteries?

Personally I wouldn't spend a penny on Allied batteries after my emails trying to get specifications on their batteries. The very same dealer informed me the the battery specs are proprietary information... unless Allied has developed a revolutionary new battery that the rest of the world isn't aware of... I posted the emails in this thread:

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Old 10-01-2019, 07:53 AM   #4
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Default Re: Allied Lithium batteries?

I posted this in the Club Car forum but since I have an RXV I’ll re-post it in here... Sorry mods for the dual posts.

So I went ahead and pulled the trigger and ordered the 60ah version of these batteries I guess I’ll be the guinea pig.

I’m a golf cart newbie and acquired a used cart last month. It came with 4 12v AGM batteries and my range on my RXV was by my guess 10-12 miles. I kind of looked at all options, I did the math and decided that a 6-8v battery upgrade would be cheaper than lithium but still costly since I would want to do it right with the rack and associated watering system however my wife wasn’t thrilled with the prospect of topping off the water every month. I didn’t feel confident with my engineering acumen (I was a business major in college) to pursue the leaf battery route. So drop-in solution it is. The Trojans were pricey compared to Allied.

I talked to Allied customer support to verify a few things before I was satisfied enough to place the order.

First is that the Lester Summit II charger can be used and will not void the warranty. They recommended using the AGM profile. Which is actually what Trojan recommends for their batteries.

They have been selling these batteries for 18 months with no major issues reported so far. They kept standing by their range claims associated with their batteries. By my guess I was figuring that the 60ah would probably get about 25 miles a charge which is what EZGO advertises with their Elite 60ah cart. (I believe... correct me if I’m wrong.) The Allied Rep did tell me that the 60ah was their best seller.

Batteries are shipped via FedEx which was important to me because from my experience FedEx will not transport Lithium batteries from questionable sources or manufacturers.

The only thing I felt like I was missing out on by not going with Trojan was their reputation of reliability and the SOC meter on each battery.

I went ahead and place the order and they arrived two days later via FedEx from St. Louis. After unboxing I pulled out my old batteries and replaced these... it was drop-in replacement as they advertised. I was shocked at how light these batteries were my concern is that they still move around a little so I’ll have to find a way to make sure they are completely secure in the battery tray.

After the swap I plugged in the charger and they were ready to go in an hour. I drove around my neighborhood for 8 miles with an average speed of 15mph and the SOC meter showed 71% of charge remaining. My neighborhood is mostly flat and my wife and kids were on board. So by my guess I’d say I should get at least 25 miles per charge. When I got back I plugged it back in and it was fully charged again in under an hour. I left it unplugged overnight and the next morning still showed 100%. Obviously the batteries are brand new so vampire drain should be minimal.

So far I’m happy with the purchase, I’ll be interested to see how they hold up going forward. I’m envious of the guys who did the Leaf mod but with my travel schedule I thought this was the best Lithium cost effective option. I hope this helps some guys that are on the fence about making the jump to Lithium. It was hard to find any true testimonials. I’ll continue to send any updates as to how they’re working out.
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Old 10-01-2019, 09:58 AM   #5
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For what's worth, they appear to have just lowered their price to $1380 (36v). I am way behind on lithium knowledge but that seems to be a very fair price if nothing else.
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Old 10-02-2019, 04:59 AM   #6
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I don't trust them. Early adopters were unsatisfied and were not given much in the way of options for the built-in BMS dropping out when the carts drew more current than that. It's not just simply a drop-out when your carts controller gets corrupted when the input power drops during operation. Mechanically controlled carts are a thing of the past these days. How those people were treated by the battery manufacturer will stick with me for a long time.
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Old 10-02-2019, 02:07 PM   #7
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Bob - is there a drop in lithium replacement you would trust or recommend? I'm nearing the end of life of my 4x12v pack and really want to do lithium but like most, I'm a little concerned about putting a kit together myself.

I've got a 2013 RXV with your programming on stock curtis 235 amp controller...
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:35 PM   #8
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None that I trust. It will take a built-in BMS that will not cut out with 250 Amps of draw for an RXV or TXT48 for me to trust it. Most are nowhere near that figure.
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Old 10-03-2019, 07:02 PM   #9
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I'd listen to Bob. He's likely forgotten more stuff about batteries.....both LA and Lith....than most of us know!!
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Old 10-09-2019, 04:34 PM   #10
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agreed - one conversation with Bob and I began to scratch the surface of his knowledge and experience in this area.

Too bad about the Lithium drop in kits. I was hoping to not have to go into another set of FLA batteries but right product is just not on the market yet. too bad.
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