1967 Turf Rider IV

Hardware · 10-18-2009, 09:35 PM

I have posted a few pictures of the steering kingpin and the spindle. There is a little bit of play in the front steering assembly and in trying to figure out where the slop can be taken out it looks like these "washers" are the biggest source of play.

From the look of the pictures it looks like the spindle was set in place over the kingpin and then a "washer" was placed above and below the kingpin then tack welded onto the spindle.

Has anyone seen that before?

I am hoping that I can grind off the welds and replace the washer with a similar one and be able to tighten up the spindles a little. I'm not sure how the kingpin is attached to the end of the steering rack. I am hoping that the kingpin isn't wore as much as the holes in the "washer". I will post more pictures when I get this thing off.

DOOmsman · 10-18-2009, 09:49 PM

I think the spindle was worn and someone hillbillied it with the washers.

Hardware · 10-19-2009, 09:55 AM

DOOmsman, That was my first though when I seen the washers, but then I wondered, How would they get the spindle over the kingpin then hold it in place? I guess I might find the answer tonight when I grind it off.

--Jim

Monsterezgokid · 10-19-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Hardware

DOOmsman, That was my first though when I seen the washers, but then I wondered, How would they get the spindle over the kingpin then hold it in place? I guess I might find the answer tonight when I grind it off.

--Jim

I believe they did something similar to what yamaha does with their steering pins..

Somewhere along the kingpin tube on the front axle there should be a kind of compression pin punched through the kingpin tube and kingpin horizontaly.

Make sense?

Hardware · 10-19-2009, 11:54 AM

That makes perfect sense! I will find out tonight.

Monsterezgokid · 10-19-2009, 01:39 PM

It might be a bugger to take out, so dont be affraid to use a punch, and a big hammer

EZ-GOnewild · 10-19-2009, 03:19 PM

Have you given any thought to taking the body off and putting it on a late model chassis with newer electronics? That way you will be able to find all the parts you need.

Just my .02

Hardware · 10-20-2009, 11:22 PM

EZ-GOnewild; Yes I have given thought to that. That would be alot simpler, but I don't have the money right now to buy another cart that would be suitable. This is a very budget build. I also like the challenge of figuring it all out and when it is done, I can say that I did it (with the help of all of you).

--Jim

Hardware · 10-20-2009, 11:46 PM

DOOmsman; take a look at the pictures, I am wondering if this was a "hillbillied" job. When I ground off the welds holding the washer on, I found a bronze bearing under each one. The bearing was the warn item in the assembly. I am thinking that it was factory that way.

Monsterezgokid; I did find that where you pointed there was a compression pin. It was very easy to drive out. Then I tried to remove the kingpin, that sucker isn't budging! First I couldn't remove the grease fitting from the top or the bottom. It is either stripped out, or press fit in. I couldn't easily get it out, and I don't think that I want to just rip it out. I beat on the top of the kingpin with a hammer and several types of punches, only to start mushrooming out the top of the kingpin. I bought new bronze bearings and I will put them back in and see if that removes the play in the spindle.

As of tonight I have everything removed from the frame with the exception of the brake pedal assembly. It is kind of like the spindles, it looks like it was welded from the factory and there is no way to remove it without grinding off the welds then re-welding it at reassembly. There are many things that look "factory hillbilly". Check out the picture of the steering pivot tube. It is a 5 lug axle hub that has been welded to the frame and used to hold bearings for the steering. Lots of Hillbilly on an old Turf Rider IV!

Tomorrow I get the new four lug hubs for the front and I hope they fit. I hope to also have the steel to replace the frame where it is rusted through.

Monsterezgokid · 10-21-2009, 12:04 AM

Looks good!

I do have one suggestion.. Can you take a pic of the whole front end of the cart.
How the springs mount and such to the axle and how the steering is setup

Maby there is a chance that you can just adapt a ezgo front assembly to that (01 and older).. Spindles, front axle and all.. Im sure there are some folks on here that have either lifted their cart, or have some parts laying around.. It would make it 100x easer to get parts in the future, and safer by the looks of how it was made originaly.

Even if the springs mount pads are in different locations, you could easly weld a plate and bingo bango your in business!

Just a suggestion.

10-18-2009, 09:49 PM	#22
DOOmsman Gone Wild Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Reddick IL Posts: 6,889	Re: 1967 Turf Rider IV I think the spindle was worn and someone hillbillied it with the washers.

10-19-2009, 09:55 AM	#23
Hardware Not Yet Wild Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 46	Re: 1967 Turf Rider IV DOOmsman, That was my first though when I seen the washers, but then I wondered, How would they get the spindle over the kingpin then hold it in place? I guess I might find the answer tonight when I grind it off. --Jim

10-19-2009, 11:54 AM	#25
Hardware Not Yet Wild Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 46	Re: 1967 Turf Rider IV That makes perfect sense! I will find out tonight.

10-19-2009, 01:39 PM	#26
Monsterezgokid Kid no more!! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bradford, Ontario, Canada Posts: 709	Re: 1967 Turf Rider IV It might be a bugger to take out, so dont be affraid to use a punch, and a big hammer

10-19-2009, 03:19 PM	#27
EZ-GOnewild Gone Wild Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 1,492	Re: 1967 Turf Rider IV Have you given any thought to taking the body off and putting it on a late model chassis with newer electronics? That way you will be able to find all the parts you need. Just my .02

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10-20-2009, 11:22 PM	#28
Hardware Not Yet Wild Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 46	Re: 1967 Turf Rider IV EZ-GOnewild; Yes I have given thought to that. That would be alot simpler, but I don't have the money right now to buy another cart that would be suitable. This is a very budget build. I also like the challenge of figuring it all out and when it is done, I can say that I did it (with the help of all of you). --Jim

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