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sowdersd 03-10-2010 10:50 PM

87 EZGO 2 stroke won't start
 
Just finished rebuilding an 87 EZGO 2 stroke, and when I say rebuilt, I mean new crank, piston assy, new cylinder, head, crank seals, rebuilt carb, etc. Cranked it over without spark plug to allow fuel pump to fill the lines and fill the carb. I used a see-through filter so I can tell there is fuel flow. While plug was out, I watched gap for spark, while cranking the engine over, which there was. Once I felt the carb bowl was full, I put the spark plug back in and tightened it down.

Started cranking it over again and it started running right away, but not wanting to seem go much more than idle. Before I could try anything, the engine produced a loud "POP" like a back fire, had some smoke come from it (couldn't tell source). Now, it still cranks over just fine, but will not start. After checking several items, I pulled the air filter intake off the carb and started cranking it over again. I place my hand near the intake and felt no air flow, no induction of air. I sprayed just a touch of ether at the intake to see if it would start of of that... it didn't. I checked the spark, it is still there.

I pulled the carb, intake and reed valves to see if they were sealing, and they looked ok. Put all of those back on with new gaskets, torqued down, tried starting the engine again, cranks over just fine, but will not start.

What would prevent the engine from not pulling air through the carb? I'm thinking of taking off the muffler to see if it is somehow blocked.

Any other ideas out there? Thank you for your help.

ruredy 03-11-2010 07:32 AM

Re: 87 EZGO 2 stroke won't start
 
sounds like you blew out the crank seals. any breach in the crankcase and the engine will fail to draw the fuel mix through it.

FIXEROFCARTS 03-11-2010 10:19 AM

Re: 87 EZGO 2 stroke won't start
 
My first thought too is blown out crank seal. Also, did you use lots of 2 stroke oil as assmbly lube? Did you premix the fuel? Check compression just for #hits and grins

sowdersd 03-11-2010 07:20 PM

Re: 87 EZGO 2 stroke won't start
 
ruredy and FixerofCarts.. yes, used 2-stroke oil as you mentioned, fuel was pre-mixed to 50:1, although I had my reservations about that, but that's what my boss said to do. Compression was 110 or so.
I pulled the exhaust pipe off this morning, just to visually check the cylinder and piston skirting. I could hear compression and suction as I rolled the engine around by hand.

My original thoughts were crank seals, but again, I was told , "look elsewhere". I can see the crank seal on the clutch side, appears to be in place, no bulging or signs of defect. I can't, however, see the seal on the flywheel side, which means either pulling the engine again to pull the flywheel, or try and work the puller in and around the engine compartment... no fun, either way.

As a side note, is there a "dead on" pre-setting for the inductive coupling, since the plate it is mounted to has slots where the screws go through? I marked the holes before I pulled the plate, but that doesn't mean it was set right to begin with.

Appreciate your help. Steve

FIXEROFCARTS 03-11-2010 08:33 PM

Re: 87 EZGO 2 stroke won't start
 
Have you checked to make sure you put the piston in right?

sowdersd 03-11-2010 09:12 PM

Re: 87 EZGO 2 stroke won't start
 
Yes, the port in the piston went to the carburetor side... at least that's the direction that the other one came out. We don't have manuals, where I work, they have zero manuals, depend on calling primary manufacturers service dept. Really frustrating when you have to call all the time for spec's and general knowledge on simple things, but without the manuals and diagrams to be sure of...... my background in engines is pretty extensive, but without the manuals and the factory information, anything you do is best guess. The idea of "it worked that way when you took it out" just doesn't fly with me.....


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