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Rootman 10-10-2019 09:21 AM

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I took inventory of my MCOR’s and the serial numbers don’t match anything you’ve documented in the first post TahoeDawg:

PGM10066810
PGM10066811
PGM10066814
PMA10019355
PMA10052900
PMA10059506
PMA10052907
PMA10052909
PMA10052914
PMA10059516
PMA10052918(bad)
PMA10052921
PMA10052925
PMA10052926

What’s the proper replacement for these wretched parts? They’re mounted on 2012-2013 CC Precedent Excel’s, so these serial numbers don’t make sense.

TahoeDawgZ71 10-10-2019 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rootman (Post 1660141)
I took inventory of my MCOR’s and the serial numbers don’t match anything you’ve documented in the first post TahoeDawg:

PGM10066810
PGM10066811
PGM10066814
PMA10019355
PMA10052900
PMA10059506
PMA10052907
PMA10052909
PMA10052914
PMA10059516
PMA10052918(bad)
PMA10052921
PMA10052925
PMA10052926

What’s the proper replacement for these wretched parts? They’re mounted on 2012-2013 CC Precedent Excel’s, so these serial numbers don’t make sense.

The serial numbers I mentioned are vehicle serial numbers. The serial numbers you mentioned appear to be serial numbers off of the pedal assemblies. These numbers don't tell me anything.

Rootman 10-10-2019 09:46 AM

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it’s funny how the barcoded serial number on the pedal assembly can’t help me... it looks so big & important TahoeDawg!

Okay, so only the VIN is relevant. I’m assuming that I’ll need a conversion kit to install a MCOR4.

Rootman 10-10-2019 12:54 PM

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So I took the extra step to remove the pedal assemblies and found the part number that you referenced on post one. Obviously no adapter is necessary, thanks.

TahoeDawgZ71 10-10-2019 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rootman (Post 1660207)
So I took the extra step to remove the pedal assemblies and found the part number that you referenced on post one. Obviously no adapter is necessary, thanks.



They might not all be that way. That cart has an mcor 4 dated 2014. It may have already been converted. I can’t recall what year your cars were. You may have a mixture.


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SparkDr 01-02-2020 12:59 PM

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Had my throttle pedal stick on me yesterday and went in search of an answer for a possible replacement spring assembly of some type and subsequently learned so much more along the way. What I discovered is that I probably have a failing MCOR as well because I do get some surging. Cart is a 2008.5 Precedent electric with a Group 1 pedal assembly. It looks like I can buy a new spring assy for the accelerator for around $60 if I need it. The pedal returned to the upright position on it's own eventually so I'm hoping it just might need a good cleaning instead. So here's my question...if I open this thing up this weekend and find the spring is terminal, would I be better off shopping for a refurb Group 2 assembly and moving to the MCOR 4 or repairing my Group 1 and replacing the MCOR 2 at the same time?

hunter99 01-24-2020 11:22 PM

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So I am guessing that when going slower and I am getting some slight jerking (speed up and slow down) that the MCOR is probably the culprit. Just want to make sure before I order one. Dave, i'll order from you. It's a 2014 ERIC cart is am pretty sure it's a MCOR 4.

TahoeDawgZ71 01-24-2020 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hunter99 (Post 1685396)
So I am guessing that when going slower and I am getting some slight jerking (speed up and slow down) that the MCOR is probably the culprit. Just want to make sure before I order one. Dave, i'll order from you. It's a 2014 ERIC cart is am pretty sure it's a MCOR 4.



You are correct. It’s probably an mcor issue. And yes, it’s an mcor4.


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PearlPack 04-07-2020 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TahoeDawgZ71 (Post 1643353)
Did you order it from us? If not, pay close attention to the sticker on the side of the MCOR4. If it says "CHINA" on the label, it's junk. Replace it with an OEM version.

I recently bought an MCOR4 from a competitor that is also a site sponsor. The faulty one said made in Mexico. The new one said made in China.

It has corrected my lunging by about 80% but it still happens.

TahoeDawgZ71 04-07-2020 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PearlPack (Post 1704615)
I recently bought an MCOR4 from a competitor that is also a site sponsor. The faulty one said made in Mexico. The new one said made in China.

It has corrected my lunging by about 80% but it still happens.

Was the Mexico MCOR4 new? If so, you need to contact whoever you bought it from and get them to swap it out for you. Nothing is perfect and sometimes good stuff fails, but the failure rate of the aftermarket Chinese MCOR is far higher than the OEM components. If your lunging is still happening, it's probably because the Chinese MCOR is not working correctly. Replace it with a new factory unit and see if it does the trick. It should correct your lunging by 100%. When those Chinese MCORs came out I bought a whole box of them. Spent the next two weeks going to customers houses and swapping them back out to factory units because 80% of them failed.

PearlPack 04-08-2020 06:45 AM

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The original MCOR4 was from Mexico. My cart is a 2012 so I assumed it just wore out.

The replacement, from China, was just installed a few weeks ago and while it's better it still isn't perfect. I've reached out to the seller who is a site sponsor about returning.

TahoeDawgZ71 04-08-2020 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PearlPack (Post 1704785)
The original MCOR4 was from Mexico. My cart is a 2012 so I assumed it just wore out.

The replacement, from China, was just installed a few weeks ago and while it's better it still isn't perfect. I've reached out to the seller who is a site sponsor about returning.

:thumbup: Thanks for your order.

movin-on 04-09-2020 05:29 AM

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So our choices are an mcor4 made in Mexico or one made in China...Pick your country...Here's a good idea Club Car...Try the USA...

manimal13 04-28-2020 03:37 PM

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Somebody anybody help me with an MCOR for a Villager. I'm looking at the underside of the gas pedal and it looks nothing like MCOR 1-4. Is it in a different location? Should I google it under a different name than MCOR?

jakesnake27 04-28-2020 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by manimal13 (Post 1712153)
Somebody anybody help me with an MCOR for a Villager. I'm looking at the underside of the gas pedal and it looks nothing like MCOR 1-4. Is it in a different location? Should I google it under a different name than MCOR?

You don't see it next to the passenger side frame rail? Can you post a pic?

NoleFan4Ever 04-28-2020 05:43 PM

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Can you take a picture of it? And what year is it??

TahoeDawgZ71 04-28-2020 06:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by manimal13 (Post 1712153)
Somebody anybody help me with an MCOR for a Villager. I'm looking at the underside of the gas pedal and it looks nothing like MCOR 1-4. Is it in a different location? Should I google it under a different name than MCOR?

post a picture here, If you cant figure out how to do it, text it to me. 706-431-3917

manimal13 04-29-2020 10:06 AM

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Here it is. Looks different than anything i've dealt with in the past.

manimal13 04-29-2020 10:07 AM

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Dang, looks like the pic posted upside down.

jakesnake27 04-29-2020 10:09 AM

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Ah, you've got the old pot box! You'll need a pre-MCOR to MCOR4 conversion kit (link below).

https://www.revolutiongolfcars.com/p...conversion-kit

manimal13 04-29-2020 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jakesnake27 (Post 1712409)
Ah, you've got the old pot box! You'll need a pre-MCOR to MCOR4 conversion kit (link below).

https://www.revolutiongolfcars.com/p...conversion-kit

This is why I love this place. Thanks so much yall!!!

jakesnake27 04-29-2020 10:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by manimal13 (Post 1712420)
This is why I love this place. Thanks so much yall!!!

:thumbup: :thumbup:

NoleFan4Ever 04-29-2020 02:25 PM

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Loved the Pot Box's. Still have to OEM ones in service today. '95 & '96 Series carts.

fk94sln 04-29-2020 06:04 PM

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Have a 2012 cc president with mcor 4 having an issue runs fine unless i leave the run/tow switch on overnight next day cart runs slow until i shut run/tow switch off for a minute or so then runs fine again?? mcor problem?? or controller problem?? also sometimes when i turn the run/tow switch on reverse alarm wont turn on until i press the peday like 4-5 times???

jakesnake27 04-29-2020 06:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fk94sln (Post 1712616)
Have a 2012 cc president with mcor 4 having an issue runs fine unless i leave the run/tow switch on overnight next day cart runs slow until i shut run/tow switch off for a minute or so then runs fine again?? mcor problem?? or controller problem?? also sometimes when i turn the run/tow switch on reverse alarm wont turn on until i press the peday like 4-5 times???

:sign3: to BGW

The OBC (on board computer, for charging) goes to sleep after awhile, so pumping the pedal to wake it up is completely normal. As for your issue of running slow, that could be a failing speed sensor. Does it do it every time you take the cart out?

WalterM6 04-29-2020 06:49 PM

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So leave the run/tow sw on. No need to turn it off unless your going to tow it as the name implies.

fk94sln 04-29-2020 07:18 PM

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Not every time just started happening lately batteries are only year and a half old and are at 50.2 to 50.9 after full charge

Sergio 04-30-2020 11:44 AM

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The slow until you cycle the Tow/Run could be an indication the Solenoid is contacts are getting stuck (welded).

When that happens the cart runs at 50% power.

fk94sln 04-30-2020 12:51 PM

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should i just replace the solenoid?

Sergio 04-30-2020 01:17 PM

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That is probably the best approach.

You could try to tap the Solenoid with a hammer wood handle when the cart is running slow to see if the issue was the contacts not releasing, but in the Precedent that is a difficult job due to the solenoid location.

orabun 05-02-2020 09:33 PM

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Is the V-Glide or Potbox the same thing as a Multi-Step Potentiometer? My serial number starts with A0026 so I'm assuming it's a 2000 DS, but it's got the pie shaped black box on the driver's side frame in front of the batteries. I'm not sure if I'm dealing with 2 different problems or all the same thing. About a month ago my battery charging stopped working so I figured it was the OBC so I bypassed it and the relay in the charger and it was good for a while. Today as I was going across the yard it started slowing down and cutting in and out until finally it wouldn't go at all. It will click and try to move and sometimes it will move slowly for a short distance and then stops. After trying to research a little I thought it could be the MCOR but after checking I determined it doesn't have one but it has the Multi-Step Potentiometer. HELP ME PLEASE!!!!

NoleFan4Ever 05-02-2020 11:18 PM

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The old original V-glides were 2-wire and worked a little different then the newer 3-wire (5k-0) MSP's which looked just like the V-glides. What we call a Pot Box was a Constant Varible Potentiometer and actually worked very well. I never understood why CC abandoned it and went to the MSP's. If you have the V-glide style (Pie Shaped Box) in the battery compartment of your '00, it would be an MSP. If it ever fails you, you will want to do a "Pre-MCOR conversion to it. That would bring it up to today's standard of an MCOR4.

orabun 05-03-2020 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by NoleFan4Ever (Post 1713617)
The old original V-glides were 2-wire and worked a little different then the newer 3-wire (5k-0) MSP's which looked just like the V-glides. What we call a Pot Box was a Constant Varible Potentiometer and actually worked very well. I never understood why CC abandoned it and went to the MSP's. If you have the V-glide style (Pie Shaped Box) in the battery compartment of your '00, it would be an MSP. If it ever fails you, you will want to do a "Pre-MCOR conversion to it. That would bring it up to today's standard of an MCOR4.

In your opinion, do you think the problem I described could be the MSP? If not, what should I check next?

NoleFan4Ever 05-03-2020 10:39 AM

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Please post this down in the CC forum and we will do some troubleshooting. That way we do not clutter this thread up with testing protocols.

kleg111 06-06-2020 04:52 PM

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My 2017 precedent suddenly has jerky acceleration which i think is MCOR but now also...when I take my foot off the accelerator to move to the brake, the moment i remove my foot from accelerator the brakes engage automatically at 100% so i skid forward as if i all of the sudden pushed the parking brake in while driving. Also, if i let off the accelerator very slowly and move over to touch the brake, once i just touch the brake, the brakes engage at 100% and i skid and come to a stop. It is very dangerous and scary. Any ideas what could be wrong? I have video if anyone wants to see it to help.

NoleFan4Ever 06-06-2020 11:52 PM

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I see you posted this is the forum area and is the best place to avoid cross-posting and cluttering up this thread.

RodneyMo 06-19-2020 08:57 AM

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would the TPS make your cart drive by itself?? im having trouble with my cart, but it only does it at full charge, once a bar is dropped off it will stop doing this.

jakesnake27 06-19-2020 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RodneyMo (Post 1732255)
would the TPS make your cart drive by itself?? im having trouble with my cart, but it only does it at full charge, once a bar is dropped off it will stop doing this.

Yes, certainly; replied to your other thread :thumbup:

fast900 08-22-2020 08:43 PM

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With the Throttle Sensor conversion kit for the 09 precedent is the MCOR a 2 or 3?

CCNorth 08-22-2020 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by fast900 (Post 1752958)
With the Throttle Sensor conversion kit for the 09 precedent is the MCOR a 2 or 3?

I upgrade my 2009 Precedent a few months ago and it was either a 3 or 4, sorry can't remember for sure. I'm positive it was not a 2. I don't think that upgrade is still available.


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