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plivanec 01-30-2013 08:40 AM

1999 CC regen 2 solenoids and coils
 
I have a 1999 CC regen 2 cart. My question is...I am replacing almost everything on the cart and I upgraded to 2 heavy duty solenoids with diodes and resistors on each. On my cart, the main solenoid has an "energy displacement coil". Do I need this coil if I am running a resistor and diode on the solenoid? My guess would be yes...but I just wanted to check with people who know much more about these things.:help:

scottyb 01-30-2013 10:56 AM

Re: 1999 CC regen 2 solenoids and coils
 
Yes, the diode will preserve the solenoid contacts

plivanec 01-30-2013 11:18 AM

Re: 1999 CC regen 2 solenoids and coils
 
So just to be clear...I do not need the coil?

scottyb 01-30-2013 12:09 PM

Re: 1999 CC regen 2 solenoids and coils
 
Lets start over,:lol: what coil?

Are you asking about the regen solenoid?

plivanec 01-30-2013 12:10 PM

Re: 1999 CC regen 2 solenoids and coils
 
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And just so I am clear as to exactly what I am talking about...here's a pic with the old solenoid and coil.

scottyb 01-30-2013 12:13 PM

Re: 1999 CC regen 2 solenoids and coils
 
This is the regen coil. As long as it is in use you need the coil. Some controller installs eliminate the regen solenoid altogether. Search FSIP Regen II

plivanec 01-30-2013 01:57 PM

Re: 1999 CC regen 2 solenoids and coils
 
I have the same set-up with the executioner motor from PQ and a 500amp Alltrax controller...so I will make sure to use it. Thanks for your help ScottyB

plivanec 02-28-2013 08:19 PM

Re: 1999 CC regen 2 solenoids and coils
 
And you were right...apparently the alltrax 500amp controllers gets rid of the regen solenoid also. I was told it was an IQ controller programmed for a powerdrive cart.

Now I am having a bit of a problem bypassing the OBC. I followed a thread from TahoeDawg that explained it very well, only to find out that right after I did it, it was for an IQ cart (involved cutting the harness form the OBC and looping the red and blue wires together). Not sure what to do now:? Since I effectively have an IQ controller, do I still follow the directions for the IQ OBC bypass? I have your DPI charger, ScottyB...so not sure what to do. Any guidence would be greatly appreciated...:help:

The way I had it before was...hooked the black wire coming from the back of the OBC to the negative battery. The charger turned on and seemed to be charging, but kept flashing yellow...like it would not reconize the battery pack. That's why I thought it was wrong and did it the other way. Starting to wonder if that way was correct or not?

scottyb 02-28-2013 08:35 PM

Re: 1999 CC regen 2 solenoids and coils
 
They only made this drive system for 1 or 2 yrs. I would rather have Tahoe's input on this. I'll ask him to reply.

TahoeDawgZ71 02-28-2013 10:38 PM

Re: 1999 CC regen 2 solenoids and coils
 
I honestly don't know the procedure to bypass the OBC in a Regen2 car.... I'll have to open the old books back out and study them and see what I can figure out... I'll let you know something tomorrow. It may be the same as the IQ, but I can't confirm that at the moment. Did you attempt the procedure for IQ OBC bypass on your cart?

plivanec 03-01-2013 06:47 AM

Re: 1999 CC regen 2 solenoids and coils
 
I did the procedure, but did not try it once I saw your other post. I can give it a shot...but one one other question was, what do I do with the grey wire coming from the charging receptacle (has an inline fuse) that goes to the red wire (with an inline fuse) coming out of the OBC?

plivanec 03-01-2013 06:49 AM

Re: 1999 CC regen 2 solenoids and coils
 
(Just as a side note...the alltrax controller is an IQ controller programmed for a powerdrive cart...if that helps.

Also, if this is the correct way to do this, there is also a grey wire from the charging receptacle that has a fuse on on. This goes into the fuse of the red wire going to the OBC that I removed. What do i do with that wire?)

This is what I posted on the other thread you responded to. Not sure if this would be the same as an IQ cart since the regen solenoid is removed and the controller is an IQ controller programmed for a powerdrive cart???

plivanec 03-01-2013 03:43 PM

Re: 1999 CC regen 2 solenoids and coils
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TahoeDawgZ71 (Post 846092)
I honestly don't know the procedure to bypass the OBC in a Regen2 car.... I'll have to open the old books back out and study them and see what I can figure out... I'll let you know something tomorrow. It may be the same as the IQ, but I can't confirm that at the moment. Did you attempt the procedure for IQ OBC bypass on your cart?

I am going to try the IQ procedure tonight...but do you have any clue what to do the the grey wire coming from the back of the charging receptacle (has an inline fuse on it)? I traced it to the OBC...but the OBC will no longer be there. Is this the positive wire? If so, I guess just hook it to the positive battery???

TahoeDawgZ71 03-06-2013 08:34 AM

Re: 1999 CC regen 2 solenoids and coils
 
Try the procedure. I just looked at a diagram and I see no reason it shouldn't work. As for the grey wire. Cut it off flush with the back of the receptacle. It's a sense lead wire that the OBC uses to communicate with the charger. You won't need it anymore. Sorry it took me so long to reply. Been sick with the flu and haven't been working.

plivanec 03-06-2013 09:10 AM

Re: 1999 CC regen 2 solenoids and coils
 
Sounds great...I will give that a try...now that I know what that grey wire is for:thumbup:

Thanks again for your help, and I hope you are getting better.

plivanec 03-11-2013 03:48 PM

Re: 1999 CC regen 2 solenoids and coils
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TahoeDawgZ71 (Post 848604)
Try the procedure. I just looked at a diagram and I see no reason it shouldn't work. As for the grey wire. Cut it off flush with the back of the receptacle. It's a sense lead wire that the OBC uses to communicate with the charger. You won't need it anymore. Sorry it took me so long to reply. Been sick with the flu and haven't been working.

I tried the procedure and it would not work. It did allow the charger to chare correctly, but the controller was constantly on. Even whith the tow/run switch in tow, it was still on. For some reason it got constant power. I put the OBC back in place and re-worked the grounding to the charger recepticle and the battery pack and got the charger to work properly. The issue I am now having is that I have no reverse. Forward works just fine, just no reverse. Any ideas as to what could cause this one? Everything was working just fine before...:help:

plivanec 03-20-2013 07:42 AM

Re: 1999 CC regen 2 solenoids and coils
 
I figured out how to bypass the OBC for this setup. It was as simple as taking the ground that goes into the OBC and grounding it to both the battery and the charging receptacle (was only grounded to the receptacle). Then grounding the one that comes out to the battery. Works perfectly now, charged it last night and went through a full charge cycle and started the float charge as it was suppossed to do.

I figured I would post this just to let anyone else know (that is trying this) that it's way easier than it seemed.8)


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