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Old 02-28-2021, 03:14 PM   #31
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Yes, that picture is actually my cart and it’s the 150ah in my EZGO RXV. It just fits height wise in the battery tub.
What kind of mileage per charge are you getting with the 150?
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Old 03-01-2021, 04:48 AM   #32
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Can someone tell me how well does the Lithium work in COLD weather?
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Old 03-04-2021, 03:24 AM   #33
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Very nice pack you have found and that is a great price. You can move your controller and solenoid into the battery tub for better access to them, especially if you have a rear seat. Wiring to tow switch remains on back plate, the rest of the harness moves into the tub. No wires cut.
Did you build this pack yourself?
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Old 03-04-2021, 10:46 AM   #34
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Can someone tell me how well does the Lithium work in COLD weather?
They told me down to 4 deg and does not lose any power in the cold like led acid.
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Old 03-04-2021, 12:29 PM   #35
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Did you build this pack yourself?
Yes I did, I have now built and installed 30 Leaf packs. But those days are just about over as the Leaf modules are very hard to find.
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Old 03-04-2021, 12:41 PM   #36
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They told me down to 4 deg and does not lose any power in the cold like led acid.
Wrong! You lose lots of performance at lower temps. You should NEVER charge if the battery is below 32 f. You can drive with the battery colder than freezing but you will notice a significant loss in performance and range.
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Old 03-04-2021, 06:54 PM   #37
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Yep. I have a Tesla and the range drops significantly in below freezing temperature. Sometimes by up to 50%.
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Old 03-04-2021, 09:18 PM   #38
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All batteries suffer the same temperature dependent behavior. Lithium is no worse than Lead/Acid in this respect. I used to fly electric model planes in cold weather (Colorado) and we would keep the batteries in a warm container before flying. Even in Arizona where cold is 45 degrees you notice a significant reduction in performance.
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Old 03-04-2021, 10:11 PM   #39
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I was out in my cart the other day when it was 72 degrees. The difference was night and day in performance. I had all the power and pep back that I had last summer. Leaf batteries BTW. Maybe since spring is here all of these questions about batteries both lead and lithium will go away, and the lithium dropout questions too.
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Old 03-05-2021, 11:31 AM   #40
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Yes - there is a difference you can feel as ambient temps increase.

As noted by Volt_Ampere, using them in colder temps is OK (best not to push high amp draws, and don't expect 100% capacity) but charging is far from ideal at freezing temps.

Forgetting about temperature extremes though, there is a noticeable difference in performance (at least that I've observed with 2 different lithium packs) between 50f ambient and 80f ambient temps. Not drastic, but there is a range and current delivery improvement even with this temperature spread.

Teslas and others have a battery heating system for cold environments, and charge rates are closely regulated with regard to battery pack temps. Not sure, but max allowable current draw might possibly also be regulated by the car's computer in certain temperature conditions.
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