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Old 07-10-2022, 10:48 AM   #11
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Default Re: 2008 precedent needs choke every time stops

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Carb adjustment is very important for starting on these. Incorrect carb settings will cause hard starting, and so will some other issues that usually arise from people making modifications.

First make sure your governor cable has some slack and that the throttle lever on the carb is able to close all the way on its own with the Go pedal up. If the cable is pulling the throttle lever open you will have problems starting.
Next make sure when you push the pedal that the microswitch in the pedal box clicks and the engine starts cranking BEFORE the throttle plate starts to pull open. If the throttle plate pulls open before the engine cranks it will have a hard time starting, and the cable or throttle linkage will need to be adjusted.

As for the carb itself, I prefer to keep/use original carbs whenever possible. The cheapo replacement ones can cause more problems than they fix. If you still have the original I would clean that one out really well and put it back on the cart.
For initial carb adjustment back off the throttle stop screw until it is not touching the throttle lever. Turn the screw in until it just barely touches and then turn in 1/4 turn. For a pedal start cart this is the proper setting for the throttle butterfly.

Mixture screw adjustment is limited on the original carb, and is usually not necessary to adjust, but it should start in the middle of the adjustment range.
If you’re in a warmer climate then you can probably turn the screw IN (clockwise) some to lean out the starting mixture a bit to avoid fouling plugs when starting. If in a cold climate turn the screw OUT (counter clockwise) some to enrich the starting mixture.

With an aftermarket carb initial setting of the adjustment screw should be to turn IN all the way until it just barely stops. Do not try to make it tight or it can deform the jetting in the carb or break the screw.
Turn the screw OUT 1-1/4 to 1-1/2 turns. Warm the engine up and see how it starts with the screw set at 1-1/2 turn and if it’s still hard to start try turning out 1/4 turn at a time and see if it gets better. Some carbs will start just fine at 1-1/2 turns out, and some may require 2 to 3 turns out in order to start properly, depending on how junky the passages and machining in the carb.
If you have to turn out more than 3 turns then usually no amount of further turning will make any difference and something else is wrong, such as damaged carb gaskets, incorrect throttle cable settings, or incorrect valve lash would be the most common things.
I checked governor cable and it has slack. Throttle lever is able to close with the pedal up. Micro switch clicks and engine cranks before the throttle plate opens .

I adjusted the throttle screw like you advised but it still won’t start without choke
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Old 07-10-2022, 12:37 PM   #12
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Default Re: 2008 precedent needs choke every time stops

Then I would remove the carb and the spacer and make sure all of the gaskets are in good shape. There are 3 main gaskets. One between the head and the spacer block (the black plastic part that's set back in the air shroud)
One between the spacer and the throttle spring plate, and then one between the plate and the carb. If any are missing or damaged replace them. Also check the spacer block for cracks or other damage.

There is another gasket between the carb and the inlet adapter, but that one will not affect the way the engine runs. Still a good idea to replace this one if you replace the others.

Next would be spark plug, make sure it's an NGK BPR6ES or BPR5ES. Use the 6 plug if you're in a hotter climate area. Gap is not super important but should be in the .030" to .035" range.

Then I would check the valve lash adjustment and make sure they're both set correctly. .005" cold
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