RXV Danaher conversion kit

[westfloridabatt]

Hello, I spend some time on the forum but I don't post much since I can typically find any answer that I need on the already listed topics. I'm hoping to find out if usgicollector or anyone still handles the Danaher to Curtis conversion kits. Thank you in advance for any help you can provide me.

[SBIRD!]

I got mine from EZGO on a black Friday sale 15% off, cyber Monday they where 20% off. Had to take the cart to the nearest dealer to get it unlocked, about $200. I believe the kit number is 649376
If I had to do it again I'd go with the Navitas.

[usgicollector]

Originally Posted by westfloridabatt

Hello, I spend some time on the forum but I don't post much since I can typically find any answer that I need on the already listed topics. I'm hoping to find out if usgicollector or anyone still handles the Danaher to Curtis conversion kits. Thank you in advance for any help you can provide me.

I believe this is all that you need to go from a Danaher to a Curtis Controller and be Plug and Play. This is the best way to go in my opinion.

1. Curtis RXV Controller 1206AC_52??
2. Curtis Main Wiring Harness #618955
3. Left controller bracket #623170
4. Right controller bracket #623213
5. Heat shield #623433
6. Resistor .86 ohm #619001
7. 10awg white wire #607707
8. 10awg white wire 400mm #624611
9. 6 Screws #73876G01
10. 2 Screws #649804
11. 2 Screws #00614G04
12. 2 Lock Washers #00565G8
13. 8 Washers #00571G2
If you have a bearing encoder there is another adapter you will need. I don't have that EZGO part number.

The problem with the Navitas conversion is your still using the old main wiring harness.

[Monstermaker]

Get the Navitas. You can easily program it yourself, and it gives you on board diagnostics.
If/when something is wrong with your system it’ll flash you the trouble code.
And you can change your settings any time, even while driving. You can set it on “kill” when you need to be faster than your neighbor’s cart, and set it down low when anyone else is gonna drive it.
It gives you full instrumentation to your smartphone screen.
It gives you anti-theft, you can wirelessly shut the cart down.

The Curtis gives you... none of that.
I don’t see what’s better about a Curtis.

[BobBoyce]

Originally Posted by Monstermaker

Get the Navitas. You can easily program it yourself, and it gives you on board diagnostics.
If/when something is wrong with your system it’ll flash you the trouble code.
And you can change your settings any time, even while driving. You can set it on “kill” when you need to be faster than your neighbor’s cart, and set it down low when anyone else is gonna drive it.
It gives you full instrumentation to your smartphone screen.
It gives you anti-theft, you can wirelessly shut the cart down.

The Curtis gives you... none of that.
I don’t see what’s better about a Curtis.

Yea, get the Navitas... See how much support you'll get from the rest of the golf cart repair industry when you need help. I get asked all the time for Navitas support. I tell them to contact Navitas, or the few dealers that will support them...

What's better about Curtis? How about an entire industry based upon mostly Curtis controlled golf carts and EVs?

[buffalofrenchy]

Maybe if the Curtis platform was open source, companies like Navitas would not exist. Clearly looking at Curtis portfolio, this is a heavy league engineering company (like the one i work for) but the fact that everything is locked then people are frustrated and turn to Navitas product because they can update their parameters in the control loop.

https://www.curtisinstruments.com/pr...r-controllers/

[JBERGER]

The Danaher to Navitas conversion is really simple and only takes about and hour, if you decide to go that route.
It is about as plug and play as is possible, so you don't have to change out the entire harness if you are at all concerned about the level of effort.

Given your west florida screen name, you might want to examine your current wiring harness and ensure it's in good condition prior to selecting your conversion option. The Navitas can be ordered to replace either the Danaher or the Curtis controllers, so you can still replace the harness if needed.

Curious as to why you want to replace?
In my case the Danaher was still functioning fine, I just wanted more power for our steep hills and the Navitas was a quick and easy fix.

[Imapled]

Originally Posted by BobBoyce

Yea, get the Navitas... See how much support you'll get from the rest of the golf cart repair industry when you need help.

More "help" than from a handful of hackers who have 1314 Developer unlocked Curtis Programmers. Someone walking into a dealer with your configuration will confuse any repair shop. Send that controller out for repair and CAP Services, FSIP and others will scratch their heads at what happened to the default configurations that should have been "locked".

FSIP provides support, Nivel, Golf Carts Modified, Plumb Quick and most of the large dealers. Navitas has a huge dealer network, supply network and has an awesome support team that responds in break neck speed.

Originally Posted by BobBoyce

I get asked all the time for Navitas support.

This private message board is probably not the best place to seek product support. Just saying... Navitas maintains a forum on Facebook and the largest golf cart forums all have the Navitas techs in them. Easily 10-20 questions addressed directly by Navitas a day.

Navitas is probably the best supported product in the golf cart industry. It just doesn't happen on this private forum because of the attitudes of some individuals probably. Which is unfortunate but, message forums are really low volume in comparison to the modern platforms the majority of folks use in 2021.

Originally Posted by BobBoyce

I tell them to contact Navitas, or the few dealers that will support them...

The few dealers... LOL. I guess Plum Quick doesn't count. Or say Revolution Golf Carts?

https://plumquick.com/ac-conversion-kits/
https://www.revolutiongolfcars.com/navitascontrollers

Thank you for your anecdotal comment that has no basis in reality. The Navitas dealer network is quite large. Significant. FSIP, Nivel, etc... Please lets be honest here Bob.

Originally Posted by BobBoyce

What's better about Curtis? How about an entire industry based upon mostly Curtis controlled golf carts and EVs?

I would say that SME is more common in the EV conversion world these days. Hyper9 and Smartmotion controllers are the core of the very popular Netgain Hyper9 offering.

Curtis does make good products but, they are mostly an OEM producer and require specialised (and hacked) programming equipment to go beyond the OEM configs. If I have an issue with your "config" I need to contact you... No dealer can help me with your configs Bob. What would Curtis say if I sent them one of your controllers asking for help?

Bob do you carry liability issuance for your OEM hacks? Should someone be injured on one of your modified controllers and an insurance company comes looking for you do you carry errors and omissions and other necessary insurance? I know Navitas does as they are a real company. Do you?

[Imapled]

Originally Posted by buffalofrenchy

Maybe if the Curtis platform was open source, companies like Navitas would not exist. Clearly looking at Curtis portfolio, this is a heavy league engineering company (like the one i work for) but the fact that everything is locked then people are frustrated and turn to Navitas product because they can update their parameters in the control loop.

https://www.curtisinstruments.com/pr...r-controllers/

To be frank its not in Curtis' view nor really should it be. They mass produce product for the OEM market. They don't sell to or market to the consumer market. Their market is business-to-business. Curtis -> E-Z-GO (etc...) Not Curtis -> Person who wants to go 30+ on a golf cart.

They also hold OEM contracts, the controllers are VCL locked for a reason and they work with the OEM vehicle producers directly as a B2B relationship.

In the grand scheme the after market is probably a small fraction to their overall revenue stream as a company. The cost to enter and manage the consumer market really probably doesn't produce any measurable ROI for them. Hence the reason they don't participate in it. Nothing wrong with that. That is just good business management.

Now with regards to OpenSource controllers... :) Check out the VESC stuff. :) As an example here is another GREAT CANADIAN company making high voltage VESC AC Inverters for traction control that is only about 10-20km from Navitas and ASI in Waterloo.

http://www.powerdesigns.ca/

[Monstermaker]

I’ve had a few questions/minor issues setting up my Navitas and have always gotten near-instant support.
Once I wasn’t even asking, I just mentioned something on a FB group and got a reply from Navitas.

Curtis doesn’t even come close to Navitas support.

Plus, Curtis controllers are ugly grey. Navitas are bright green. That clearly indicates a superior item, any fool can see that. You wouldn’t eat grey lettuce would you?