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Old 05-24-2011, 04:59 PM   #21
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I would go the desert golf first. Then if they can't help, go to Baskos. Baskos will be good, but maybe more expensive!

I'm not an engine builder, but I believe it has to be bored and new piston to be any good. You also need to take a good look at bottom end. Piston and ring set is not expensive.

Then I would also ask someone about 3 angle valve job, or light unshrouding the valves for a bit more power, since its all apart.

Make this work as an asset for you not just the same old thing!!

I agree with Sho.
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Old 05-24-2011, 06:47 PM   #22
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here is a pic of the piston head with carbon build up?? i think, and the lifters they still work and appear fine but again, dont really know what im looking at
I can't beleive how "unslugged" the rocker arm assy is and how uncarboned the piston top is Was it smokeing? Did it use alot of oil? Did it just get run out of oil? Any time you have a "seized" engine, there has to be some damage, IE: rod to crank , crank bearings or in the J38 engine, the balancer to the block journal (very bad!). Must be taken apart and inspected. I would think if you have the engine out, tore down so the shop just has to pull the clutch fixed sheave,side case, remove cam/balance and piston rod assy, then check the cylinder, the shop minimum should be about right 30.00 to 45.00 to give you a insight to you next move. I know...just my 2 cents worth. Good luck on what ever you decide.
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Old 05-24-2011, 09:22 PM   #23
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One I looked at was smoking for a while and piston didn't have much carbon on it, plug was really black though and valve.
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Old 05-25-2011, 05:21 PM   #24
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I can't beleive how "unslugged" the rocker arm assy is and how uncarboned the piston top is Was it smokeing? Did it use alot of oil? Did it just get run out of oil? Any time you have a "seized" engine, there has to be some damage, IE: rod to crank , crank bearings or in the J38 engine, the balancer to the block journal (very bad!). Must be taken apart and inspected. I would think if you have the engine out, tore down so the shop just has to pull the clutch fixed sheave,side case, remove cam/balance and piston rod assy, then check the cylinder, the shop minimum should be about right 30.00 to 45.00 to give you a insight to you next move. I know...just my 2 cents worth. Good luck on what ever you decide.
Yeah it smoked, and i was always putting oil in it, what you said in red color, is all a forgin language to me, hopefully the shop can tell me whats wrong, and about how much money it will cost if its alot i may just by a clone and have to fab some parts to make it fit hoping i dont have to go that route just yet. let everyone know how its going, when i get it back from the Hospital
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Old 05-27-2011, 04:40 PM   #25
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Ok so i just heard, that the bearings are shot the rods are screwed and the inside looks like a bomb went off, or as the mechanic says "it looks ugly in there" So i guess i'll be upgrading to a clone or aftermarket engine! hope there not to hard to fab up, im sure ill be starting a new thread with questions, but ill be looking and searching for other peoples upgraded engines. Thanks to everyone that has helped me out in this matter, it lasted a long time for the years of abuse im sure.
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Old 05-28-2011, 07:49 AM   #26
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You still want to know if the crank is hurt. The rest is still not that expensive. Did Desert look at it?
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Old 05-31-2011, 12:32 PM   #27
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You still want to know if the crank is hurt. The rest is still not that expensive. Did Desert look at it?
No desert did not look at it, its still at Baskos, and im in canada till the 4th so cant do anything from here, when i get back ill be sure do get a detailed list of what is wrong, and then hopefully you guys might be able to tell me if i can still rebuild or if i should just get a new engine/clone, Thnaks mike mac for your help in this!!!
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Old 05-31-2011, 10:10 PM   #28
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Well stay cool up there, cause its hot here!! When you get back, I would take it to Desert, cause you need to find out about the balancer journals (via Smallblock), probably the cam journals/bearings as well,and see if the crank is scored.

I have read people on here type about taking the balancer out, but I don't really know if someone has actually tried it, and what the results were.

Can those journals be sleeved, or is it not cost effective?

Buddy, I've been no help at all, I've just offered suggestions. The Big Guys on here know what is actually possible.

Good luck, Mike
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Old 05-31-2011, 10:15 PM   #29
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Wow I looked at a stock G9 head last weekend no wonder they can't breath, the exhaust port is TINY. I was told you have to weld them up to hog them out, and need a cam custom made to get them to run well anyway. That one was burning oil but still ran fine, it was not carboned up like you would think. Some in the exhaust port and plug would foul at times the rest looked normal. I have to find his ignitor and see if it makes mine run different.
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Old 05-31-2011, 10:48 PM   #30
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Ya Sho, but it has to be a certain % of the intake port. Thats why it has to be flowed. Hot gasses flow better than cold gasses. I was just thinking about unshrouding valves, then mill the head, to try to get maybe 9 to 1 compression? Maybe its not doable. Maybe lighten the flywheel? Shmo and Rocrlr may be able to help here.

We should be starting a new thread on this sub. if we are to pursue this.
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