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01-15-2022, 08:22 AM | #1 |
Not Yet Wild
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All sports super sport lift too stiff
Last year installed a 4”all sports on my club car DS and it rides like a covered wagon. Either geometry sucks or the spring rate is wayyyy too high. Anyone me ever find a source for custom leafs ? I wonder if I could get a softer spring or even modifying the existing leaf.
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01-15-2022, 02:29 PM | #2 |
Searching for The Way
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Re: All sports super sport lift too stuff
Leaf spring suspensions are notorious for rough ride. Usually if you use a softer spring you'll have alignment issues and steering will be irratic. The suspension design is the fault here.
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01-15-2022, 02:46 PM | #3 |
Gone Wild
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Re: All sports super sport lift too stuff
While all of the above is true in theory, there is still a lot you can do to "dial in" our suspension to our needs. First question. Which end of the cart is the biggest problem?
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01-16-2022, 03:39 PM | #4 |
Photoshop Guy
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Re: All sports super sport lift too stiff
I have the same kit in a 6" on my 1987 Club Car and it rides very comfortably in my opinion. Been on the cart with pretty frequent use both on and off-road since January 2013 and I would gladly buy another one. I do have 8" wheels with 22" tires (plenty of sidewall cushion). Maybe that makes a difference?
I have a 1990 Club Car with a Z-lift (uses stock front suspension) and it rides like a covered wagon. Every bump seems to throw you out of your seat. |
01-16-2022, 10:51 PM | #5 |
Gone Wild
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Re: All sports super sport lift too stiff
Well Springbok, looks like his radio went dead.
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01-19-2022, 08:26 PM | #6 |
Not Yet Wild
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Re: All sports super sport lift too stuff
The front is definitely the worst. Rear is little stiff since I did Li conversion (had dual action springs), I may put stock leafs back in the rear at s9mw point to try but for sure the front is the primary offender.
QUOTE=dundeebarnbuggy;1870931]While all of the above is true in theory, there is still a lot you can do to "dial in" our suspension to our needs. First question. Which end of the cart is the biggest problem?[/QUOTE] |
01-20-2022, 02:30 PM | #7 |
Gone Wild
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Re: All sports super sport lift too stiff
Here's what you need. The front main leaf is OK. You need to find a lighter [read thinner] helper to go with as you can't just run the main by itself. Early 80s DS had a three leaves in the front if you can find them, the middle works great. Now, it still needs a little extra support where it bolts to the frame. A peice of 1/4 or 3/8" flat bar with the ends bent down to form a bit of a saddle against the spring. You will have a bit more body roll if you want to corner at stupid speeds but lifted carts are not made to corner. It really helps off road as it allows a little more movement in off camber situations allowing the rear wheels more equal traction. What size tires?
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01-22-2022, 07:30 AM | #8 |
Not Yet Wild
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Re: All sports super sport lift too stiff
I wonder if I could find the dimensions of a softer spring such as you describe and get a spring place to bend one up for me. I have 22” X 10 tires.
QUOTE=dundeebarnbuggy;1871675]Here's what you need. The front main leaf is OK. You need to find a lighter [read thinner] helper to go with as you can't just run the main by itself. Early 80s DS had a three leaves in the front if you can find them, the middle works great. Now, it still needs a little extra support where it bolts to the frame. A peice of 1/4 or 3/8" flat bar with the ends bent down to form a bit of a saddle against the spring. You will have a bit more body roll if you want to corner at stupid speeds but lifted carts are not made to corner. It really helps off road as it allows a little more movement in off camber situations allowing the rear wheels more equal traction. What size tires?[/QUOTE] |
01-22-2022, 01:04 PM | #9 |
Gone Wild
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Re: All sports super sport lift too stiff
If you are not going to get a factory CC leaf, just take your main to a decent spring shop, they will know what you need. The saddle, however you will have to make yourself as You need the cart's weight sitting on the spring [assembled] to figure out the amount of "step" needed at the end to just touch the spring without forcing it.
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01-27-2022, 05:30 PM | #10 |
Searching for The Way
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Re: All sports super sport lift too stiff
Not many spring shops left anymore. We used to get springs re-arched all the time. That's a good suggestion though, there's usually at least one in every bigger city. I've heard some trailer springs are the correct thickness and width, have considered looking at those before.
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