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Old 04-16-2021, 09:48 AM   #21
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Default Re: why is this not talked about more?

Mine are 48V, 50 AH-I have 2 in parallel.
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Old 04-16-2021, 10:02 AM   #22
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Wiring them in parallel is a bit of a pain compared to Leaf modules. Did you parallel the cells individually or did you use a separate BMS on each series section?
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Old 04-16-2021, 10:14 AM   #23
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I have a separate BMS on each pack.
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Old 04-16-2021, 10:58 AM   #24
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The batteries would have to be way cheaper for me to consider that setup over my Leaf setups.
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Old 04-16-2021, 01:42 PM   #25
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I still think the days of the Leaf cells are past, regardless of pandemic. They haven't made that battery for a while and even the 3rd generation went to a different chemistry. Couple that with the number of people out there using the cells to build batteries for golf carts, solar storage, EV's, etc. etc.

What I do think is on the not-so-distant horizon is a drastic reduction in new cells. We're already seeing the price come down. You can buy an almost 300Ah cell for like $80.00 before shipping from China of course. I just got a quote for 28 x 120Ah new cells (enough for a 36v and 48v battery) for $36.00 each, plus $263.00 shipping to the door. I wish I'd waited and I'm dying to order these, but I don't have a need for them.
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Old 04-16-2021, 07:43 PM   #26
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3rd gen is same chemistry as far as I can tell. Still same voltage curve. Different form factor. I have two 7S3P modules in my cart and the performance is fantastic.
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I paid about $1,200 for the two batteries as I recall. BMS were expensive (probably got taken on those). All in all I am very happy with the install and performance.
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Old 04-16-2021, 09:31 PM   #28
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I still think the days of the Leaf cells are past, regardless of pandemic. They haven't made that battery for a while and even the 3rd generation went to a different chemistry. Couple that with the number of people out there using the cells to build batteries for golf carts, solar storage, EV's, etc. etc.

What I do think is on the not-so-distant horizon is a drastic reduction in new cells. We're already seeing the price come down. You can buy an almost 300Ah cell for like $80.00 before shipping from China of course. I just got a quote for 28 x 120Ah new cells (enough for a 36v and 48v battery) for $36.00 each, plus $263.00 shipping to the door. I wish I'd waited and I'm dying to order these, but I don't have a need for them.
I wouldn't buy jack squat from China.. I think you folks buying these batteries from them are going to eventually see lifespans less than half of what is claimed.

China has a very solid, almost infallible, track record of selling junk that doesn't last long and doesn't meet specs.
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Old 04-17-2021, 11:28 AM   #29
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When you cede manufacturing you limit the options :) ymmv
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Old 04-17-2021, 11:54 AM   #30
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There are plenty of quality things made in China. But I would not buy Chinese batteries unless a US company has them and backs them up.
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