Aftermarket clutches?

BrewCityMusic · 12-31-2016, 02:30 PM

The D600 is good for 3600RPM, which is actually about 400rpm less than the stock 357 that was in your G22, so without some changes (other than the motor itself) You're actually going to have a SLOWER cart with that engine swap. Like CG said, all the HP in the world won't make You faster if the engine is spinning the same RPM.

That said, Your best move to make up for that lost speed would likely be a set of 8:1 or even 6:1 gears in the transaxle, personally I'd stick with the 8:1 ratio if You have to clutch it to engage at over 1k, otherwise You're going to have an annoyingly jumpy cart whenever You take off. Mosey on over to the "Big Block" section and hit up the guys on the "Diesel Engine Swap" threads, You'll likely find some definitive hands-on experience there that may help You better.

Also, I'm right outside of Lake Geneva if You get stuck or need a hand with anything

webn237 · 12-31-2016, 02:39 PM

I tried the diesel thread and haven't had any reponses. I think I'm going to go with a comet primary clutch. The comet clutch looks like it engages at 1100 rpms.

I just moved down to monroe WI of your ever in the area feel free to hit me up lol

webn237 · 01-08-2017, 04:03 PM

For the d600 does anyone know what the shaft length needs to be?

raydhd · 01-08-2017, 06:02 PM

I see the d600 is rated @ 3200 rpms. With 23" tires and the comet primary you should end up somewhere in the 20's mph range.

webn237 · 01-08-2017, 06:08 PM

Is that with stock gearing?

raydhd · 01-08-2017, 06:17 PM

Yes I just ran 23" tires with a 10:1 gear ratio @ 3400 rpms and it came out to 23.3 mph. My comet clutched VC 460 in a yamaha G14 does 25 mph @ 3700 rpms. So I would say the speed calculator is very close.The key to your speed is the 23" tires and the comet clutch in a yamaha.

webn237 · 01-08-2017, 06:24 PM

I'm thinking about 8:1 gears and limited slip. Is that around 25-27ish?

raydhd · 01-08-2017, 06:43 PM

If the 8:1 are only 8:1 with the comet that works out to 29.1 @ 3400 rpms. Just click on to quick links above and scroll down to the speed calculator.It comes out mighty close to real life speed.

webn237 · 01-08-2017, 06:58 PM

Oh cool lol I didn't know the site had that lol thanks!

sho305 · 01-10-2017, 10:52 PM

You should also make sure the clutch can shift fully under 3600, some don't shift till closer to 4K and you will hit the governor and lose power.

12-31-2016, 02:30 PM	#11
BrewCityMusic Hammer Down !!!! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Lake Geneva, WI Posts: 2,681	Re: Aftermarket clutches? The D600 is good for 3600RPM, which is actually about 400rpm less than the stock 357 that was in your G22, so without some changes (other than the motor itself) You're actually going to have a SLOWER cart with that engine swap. Like CG said, all the HP in the world won't make You faster if the engine is spinning the same RPM. That said, Your best move to make up for that lost speed would likely be a set of 8:1 or even 6:1 gears in the transaxle, personally I'd stick with the 8:1 ratio if You have to clutch it to engage at over 1k, otherwise You're going to have an annoyingly jumpy cart whenever You take off. Mosey on over to the "Big Block" section and hit up the guys on the "Diesel Engine Swap" threads, You'll likely find some definitive hands-on experience there that may help You better. Also, I'm right outside of Lake Geneva if You get stuck or need a hand with anything

12-31-2016, 02:39 PM	#12
webn237 Gone Wild Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Monroe, Wisconsin Posts: 516	Re: Aftermarket clutches? I tried the diesel thread and haven't had any reponses. I think I'm going to go with a comet primary clutch. The comet clutch looks like it engages at 1100 rpms. I just moved down to monroe WI of your ever in the area feel free to hit me up lol

01-08-2017, 04:03 PM	#13
webn237 Gone Wild Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Monroe, Wisconsin Posts: 516	Re: Aftermarket clutches? For the d600 does anyone know what the shaft length needs to be?

01-08-2017, 06:02 PM	#14
raydhd VC 460 CLONE GONE WILD Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Ray BY The Bay NJ Posts: 10,639	Re: Aftermarket clutches? I see the d600 is rated @ 3200 rpms. With 23" tires and the comet primary you should end up somewhere in the 20's mph range.

01-08-2017, 06:08 PM	#15
webn237 Gone Wild Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Monroe, Wisconsin Posts: 516	Re: Aftermarket clutches? Is that with stock gearing?

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01-08-2017, 06:17 PM	#16
raydhd VC 460 CLONE GONE WILD Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Ray BY The Bay NJ Posts: 10,639	Re: Aftermarket clutches? Yes I just ran 23" tires with a 10:1 gear ratio @ 3400 rpms and it came out to 23.3 mph. My comet clutched VC 460 in a yamaha G14 does 25 mph @ 3700 rpms. So I would say the speed calculator is very close.The key to your speed is the 23" tires and the comet clutch in a yamaha.

01-08-2017, 06:24 PM	#17
webn237 Gone Wild Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Monroe, Wisconsin Posts: 516	Re: Aftermarket clutches? I'm thinking about 8:1 gears and limited slip. Is that around 25-27ish?

01-08-2017, 06:43 PM	#18
raydhd VC 460 CLONE GONE WILD Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Ray BY The Bay NJ Posts: 10,639	Re: Aftermarket clutches? If the 8:1 are only 8:1 with the comet that works out to 29.1 @ 3400 rpms. Just click on to quick links above and scroll down to the speed calculator.It comes out mighty close to real life speed.

01-08-2017, 06:58 PM	#19
webn237 Gone Wild Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Monroe, Wisconsin Posts: 516	Re: Aftermarket clutches? Oh cool lol I didn't know the site had that lol thanks!

01-10-2017, 10:52 PM	#20
sho305 Vegas modded 420 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: West MI Posts: 15,443	Re: Aftermarket clutches? You should also make sure the clutch can shift fully under 3600, some don't shift till closer to 4K and you will hit the governor and lose power.

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