hard starting G1

1989Marathon · 03-01-2013, 09:07 PM

I would take a look at the solenoid contacts if it starts easy in reverse and not forward.

bodzcampers · 03-01-2013, 09:10 PM

I am so discouraged. I just rebuilt the engine last winter and did it again this winter. Anyone want to buy a minted out, hard starting g1? Tired of it. I just got my finger prints back from having sanded and buffed every last bit of the thing.

1989Marathon · 03-01-2013, 09:14 PM

Don't give up so fast... You can swap the forward/reverse solenoids with each other and that will tell you if it is the problem. Once you get it running good, you'll be glad you spent the time.

bodzcampers · 03-01-2013, 09:26 PM

Thanks. I'll keep plugging away...no choice right now. I took the generator off. The brushes won't stay locked in place, wires exposed, and the inner element seems to be wearing against the side walls. It's looking to me like this is it. But i'm worried because an earlier poster seemed to know what he was talking about thought it was timing and not the generator. timing is ok , I marked the spot where it goes. theres not much play in these to messs up timing.

1989Marathon · 03-01-2013, 09:34 PM

You could advance the stator plate to its extreme position on a G1 215cc motor and it wouldn't cause it to do this. You have proven that by just putting the plug in and not firing it. If you aren't firing the plug, it doesn't matter where the timing is set.

bodzcampers · 03-01-2013, 09:36 PM

I do have spark, the stater is in the right spot. I did mark it so it would be in the right spot

bodzcampers · 03-01-2013, 09:42 PM

it makes sense to the solenoids. Hurray for me. I was inspecting the generator more (which looks wore and tore), and broke some pieces off. So, I have to get the new generator now before I can test the solenoids. It's a vicious cycle.

1989Marathon · 03-01-2013, 09:43 PM

Pull the plug wire off so it doesn't fire and see if it turns faster. It will likely have little to no affect. The problem is likely the starter(now that you disclosed the issues with it) or the forward solenoid contacts, or a connection. I would say it is the solenoid contacts. I have a little bit of experience with this motor. I modified a stock 215cc G1 motor so it would go over 40mph.

G1 Motor

bodzcampers · 03-01-2013, 09:46 PM

Awesome! Thanks. I really do appreciate the help.
Mike

1989Marathon · 03-01-2013, 09:49 PM

Just hang in there until you get it fixed. You have one of the fastest and most rugged stock golf carts ever built.

03-01-2013, 09:07 PM	#11
1989Marathon Gone Wild Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,730	Re: hard starting G1 I would take a look at the solenoid contacts if it starts easy in reverse and not forward.
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03-01-2013, 09:10 PM	#12
bodzcampers Getting Wild Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 124	Re: hard starting G1 I am so discouraged. I just rebuilt the engine last winter and did it again this winter. Anyone want to buy a minted out, hard starting g1? Tired of it. I just got my finger prints back from having sanded and buffed every last bit of the thing.
bodzcampers Getting Wild Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 124

03-01-2013, 09:14 PM	#13
1989Marathon Gone Wild Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,730	Re: hard starting G1 Don't give up so fast... You can swap the forward/reverse solenoids with each other and that will tell you if it is the problem. Once you get it running good, you'll be glad you spent the time.
1989Marathon Gone Wild Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,730

03-01-2013, 09:26 PM	#14
bodzcampers Getting Wild Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 124	Re: hard starting G1 Thanks. I'll keep plugging away...no choice right now. I took the generator off. The brushes won't stay locked in place, wires exposed, and the inner element seems to be wearing against the side walls. It's looking to me like this is it. But i'm worried because an earlier poster seemed to know what he was talking about thought it was timing and not the generator. timing is ok , I marked the spot where it goes. theres not much play in these to messs up timing.
bodzcampers Getting Wild Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 124

03-01-2013, 09:34 PM	#15
1989Marathon Gone Wild Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,730	Re: hard starting G1 You could advance the stator plate to its extreme position on a G1 215cc motor and it wouldn't cause it to do this. You have proven that by just putting the plug in and not firing it. If you aren't firing the plug, it doesn't matter where the timing is set.
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03-01-2013, 09:36 PM	#16
bodzcampers Getting Wild Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 124	Re: hard starting G1 I do have spark, the stater is in the right spot. I did mark it so it would be in the right spot
bodzcampers Getting Wild Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 124

03-01-2013, 09:42 PM	#17
bodzcampers Getting Wild Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 124	Re: hard starting G1 it makes sense to the solenoids. Hurray for me. I was inspecting the generator more (which looks wore and tore), and broke some pieces off. So, I have to get the new generator now before I can test the solenoids. It's a vicious cycle.
bodzcampers Getting Wild Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 124

03-01-2013, 09:46 PM	#19
bodzcampers Getting Wild Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 124	Re: hard starting G1 Awesome! Thanks. I really do appreciate the help. Mike
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03-01-2013, 09:49 PM	#20
1989Marathon Gone Wild Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,730	Re: hard starting G1 Just hang in there until you get it fixed. You have one of the fastest and most rugged stock golf carts ever built.
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