F & R Contactors

Bflanders5 · 08-30-2015, 10:00 PM

Does anyone know who else sales F & R Contactors other than Carts Unlimited ( Scotty B)???

I have a set from him and cant seem to get anything working. I ask questions and find my own answers on this forum faster than he can answer. I am stumped and it is obvious he is stumped.

I just want to get this thing running. Only reason why I bought all new through him was to avoid this sort of thing. In any case, would love some feedback on how I can move forward. Not trying to bad mouth him but nothing seems to be getting done.

If anyone has some input let me know. Thx

mooneyes · 08-31-2015, 01:12 AM

i got mine from scottyb and it works flawlessly do you have the wiring diagram and was everything in working order before changing to this setup

fireboat · 08-31-2015, 05:35 AM

I got mine from ScottyB also, it took a few emails back and forth but it has worked perfectly since. I have nothing but good to say about him. He will get back to you, usually at the end of each business day.

Perhaps trying to post here? Post up all the details and a pic or two, there are other very knowledgeable people here that can help also. I know it can be frustrating but you will get it going.

Revolution · 08-31-2015, 05:55 AM

Those Albright contactors are pretty strait forward, not much to go wrong with them. I would have to guess you have it wired wrong.

Let us know your application (cart brand, year, drive system, and voltage) and you will get the help you need.

DaveTM · 08-31-2015, 10:10 AM

Yeah....I'm having a tough time thinking you can't get a right answer from ScottyB. I purchased his Super Duty Contactors and had 'em working in no time. The HD Contactors wire up the same way so I'm certain that if you post some pics we can get you up and running in no time.

JMGreco · 08-31-2015, 11:52 AM

No hate for Scotty B on this forum - only love!

rbuggies48IN · 08-31-2015, 12:19 PM

Got my HD switch cam from Scotttyb. Product comes with perfect instructions, as I imagine his F&R package did also. Scottyb is the best. Stick with him - the solution will happen soon.

Bflanders5 · 08-31-2015, 12:53 PM

So its a 94 EZGO that I converted to 48 volts. I have the Alltrax 48400, with a HD solenoid from Scotty and his F and R contactors. Wired everything up and it ran flawlessly for about 30 mins. All of a sudden nothing. Made sure everything was wired correctly.

Put it back together and it will work intermentaly, 4-5 times in forward and reverse and then nothing. Checked 48 volts between small posts on solenoid, and between diode on F and R contactors, all this directions from Scotty. I then realized controller was throwing Pre charge failure. Found a post on here, and checked ohms on resistor on big/top lugs on solenoid. It read 470 ohms which Scotty said is fine and suggested crimp connector was loose. Took back off cart and soldered both sides of resistor. Checked resistance again and it read 470 ohms. Put back on cart and it worked for 4-5 times switching back and forth between forward and reverse. Then nothing and is still throwing Pre charge failure.

Through all this the solenoid is clicking whenever throttle is pressed, simply does not move. So that is the whole story. Hoping someone can figure it out.

Thx

Steve A · 08-31-2015, 01:37 PM

I think I. Would check the controller output on terminal 2&3. Terminal 1 should be at 48 volts in foward. Terminal 4 is the reverse. Jack up the rear tires first. So you don't send it through the wall when you get it working. Then check the throttle

JohnnieB · 08-31-2015, 01:49 PM

What is the exact voltage between the controller's B- and B+ terminals before the solenoid clicks?

What is the exact voltage between the solenoid's B- and B+ terminals when the pedal is pushed just far enough to make the solenoid click?

Also, what is the exact voltage on the red wire at the controller when the pedal is pushed just far enough to make the solenoid click?
(Pin-1 if the four separate push-on connectors are use and Pin-4 if the stock EZGO connector is used)

FWIW, I'm not sure where a SPM controller senses the voltage for the Pre-Charge Failure error, but it has got to be between the B- terminal on the controller and either the B+ terminal or the red wire.

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Connect a voltmeter between the controller's B- and M- terminals.
What is the voltage when the pedal is pushed just far enough to make the solenoid click?

08-30-2015, 10:00 PM	#1
Bflanders5 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 14	F & R Contactors Does anyone know who else sales F & R Contactors other than Carts Unlimited ( Scotty B)??? I have a set from him and cant seem to get anything working. I ask questions and find my own answers on this forum faster than he can answer. I am stumped and it is obvious he is stumped. I just want to get this thing running. Only reason why I bought all new through him was to avoid this sort of thing. In any case, would love some feedback on how I can move forward. Not trying to bad mouth him but nothing seems to be getting done. If anyone has some input let me know. Thx
Bflanders5 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 14

08-31-2015, 01:12 AM	#2
mooneyes Getting Wild Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: westvirginia Posts: 137	Re: F & R Contactors i got mine from scottyb and it works flawlessly do you have the wiring diagram and was everything in working order before changing to this setup

08-31-2015, 05:35 AM	#3
fireboat Not Yet Wild Join Date: May 2013 Location: Palmetto Bay, FL Posts: 29	Re: F & R Contactors I got mine from ScottyB also, it took a few emails back and forth but it has worked perfectly since. I have nothing but good to say about him. He will get back to you, usually at the end of each business day. Perhaps trying to post here? Post up all the details and a pic or two, there are other very knowledgeable people here that can help also. I know it can be frustrating but you will get it going.

08-31-2015, 05:55 AM	#4
Revolution Voltaholic Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Close to Navasota Texas Posts: 934	Re: F & R Contactors Those Albright contactors are pretty strait forward, not much to go wrong with them. I would have to guess you have it wired wrong. Let us know your application (cart brand, year, drive system, and voltage) and you will get the help you need.

08-31-2015, 10:10 AM	#5
DaveTM Gone Wild Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Southwestern Pa. Posts: 6,214	Re: F & R Contactors Yeah....I'm having a tough time thinking you can't get a right answer from ScottyB. I purchased his Super Duty Contactors and had 'em working in no time. The HD Contactors wire up the same way so I'm certain that if you post some pics we can get you up and running in no time.

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08-31-2015, 11:52 AM	#6
JMGreco Gone Wild Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Jarrettsville, MD Posts: 206	Re: F & R Contactors No hate for Scotty B on this forum - only love!

08-31-2015, 12:19 PM	#7
rbuggies48IN Gone Wild Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: La Quinta Posts: 273	Re: F & R Contactors Got my HD switch cam from Scotttyb. Product comes with perfect instructions, as I imagine his F&R package did also. Scottyb is the best. Stick with him - the solution will happen soon.

08-31-2015, 12:53 PM	#8
Bflanders5 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 14	Re: F & R Contactors So its a 94 EZGO that I converted to 48 volts. I have the Alltrax 48400, with a HD solenoid from Scotty and his F and R contactors. Wired everything up and it ran flawlessly for about 30 mins. All of a sudden nothing. Made sure everything was wired correctly. Put it back together and it will work intermentaly, 4-5 times in forward and reverse and then nothing. Checked 48 volts between small posts on solenoid, and between diode on F and R contactors, all this directions from Scotty. I then realized controller was throwing Pre charge failure. Found a post on here, and checked ohms on resistor on big/top lugs on solenoid. It read 470 ohms which Scotty said is fine and suggested crimp connector was loose. Took back off cart and soldered both sides of resistor. Checked resistance again and it read 470 ohms. Put back on cart and it worked for 4-5 times switching back and forth between forward and reverse. Then nothing and is still throwing Pre charge failure. Through all this the solenoid is clicking whenever throttle is pressed, simply does not move. So that is the whole story. Hoping someone can figure it out. Thx
Bflanders5 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 14

08-31-2015, 01:37 PM	#9
Steve A Not Yet Wild Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Palm Desert. Ca. Posts: 24	Re: F & R Contactors I think I. Would check the controller output on terminal 2&3. Terminal 1 should be at 48 volts in foward. Terminal 4 is the reverse. Jack up the rear tires first. So you don't send it through the wall when you get it working. Then check the throttle

08-31-2015, 01:49 PM	#10
JohnnieB Techno-Nerd Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: West Virginia Posts: 19,654	Re: F & R Contactors What is the exact voltage between the controller's B- and B+ terminals before the solenoid clicks? What is the exact voltage between the solenoid's B- and B+ terminals when the pedal is pushed just far enough to make the solenoid click? Also, what is the exact voltage on the red wire at the controller when the pedal is pushed just far enough to make the solenoid click? (Pin-1 if the four separate push-on connectors are use and Pin-4 if the stock EZGO connector is used) FWIW, I'm not sure where a SPM controller senses the voltage for the Pre-Charge Failure error, but it has got to be between the B- terminal on the controller and either the B+ terminal or the red wire. ------------ Connect a voltmeter between the controller's B- and M- terminals. What is the voltage when the pedal is pushed just far enough to make the solenoid click?

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