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05-31-2017, 10:50 PM | #1 |
Gone Wild
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94 CC DS 36 Volt With Controller issue
Working on a 94 CC DS 36 volt that I am guessing has been been retrofit with a an electronic controller?
Was the 36 volt 94 CC originally a resistor cart with multiple solenoids or did they make a 36v with a controller in 94? Problem is the solenoid is not engaging. I can make the cart run by jumping 36 volts directly to the primary solenoid coil. One terminal on the primary coil has a black and white wire going to a micro switch on on the F/R switch. Same terminal has a red wire that I think goes to the controller. The other primary coil terminal has a small yellow wire going to the controller. I am not sure what role the black and white wire to the Mirco switch plays. If I manually make that B/W wire hot, the solenoid closes and cart runs. The other side of the Mirco switch has a green/white wire with power. I do not think the Switch is bad. Any ideas or suggestions? |
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05-31-2017, 10:55 PM | #2 |
Happy Carting
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Re: 94 CC DS 36 Volt With Controller issue
If the F&R has 3 micro switches and the throttle has a V glide the cart is likely factory solid state. You need to fix the solenoid activation circuit. There is one in the V glide too. Make sure the F&R ms closest to the front of cart has (+) power and is working then the Vglide ms (+ power) and working the same... solenoid should be clicking now.
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06-01-2017, 08:35 AM | #3 | |
Gone Wild
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Re: 94 CC DS 36 Volt With Controller issue
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Thank you so much. The switch closest to the front of the cart is the one with the black and white wire that feeds the solenoid. Input to that switch is the green and white wire. I have voltage there, but sometimes it seems to be less that 36 volts. Anyway, I will try the steps you outlined.. I was just confused because the 1994 service manuals I have do not show or reference a solid state controller and my wire colors are all different from the manual. However, it does have a vglide throttle. Usually If I have a book or diagram or some way to understand the solenoid activation circuit, I can figure these out. |
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06-01-2017, 08:45 AM | #4 |
Happy Carting
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Re: 94 CC DS 36 Volt With Controller issue
It is factory. The solenoid needs 36v between it's 2 small posts to close and stay latched.
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06-01-2017, 08:55 AM | #5 |
Gone Wild
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Re: 94 CC DS 36 Volt With Controller issue
That was the only year they made a 36v Controller cart, here is the diagram:
http://www.buggiesgonewild.com/attac...ire_vglide.jpg |
06-01-2017, 09:14 AM | #6 | |
Gone Wild
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Re: 94 CC DS 36 Volt With Controller issue
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Sergio, I have a 1992 36v that was a factory controller cart, and I believe Mooncarter has a couple also. Frankencarts, but factory. http://www.buggiesgonewild.com/elect...-how-rare.html |
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06-01-2017, 09:23 AM | #7 |
Happy Carting
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Re: 94 CC DS 36 Volt With Controller issue
That solid state diagram without the OBC is simple & sweeet
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06-02-2017, 12:04 AM | #8 | |
Gone Wild
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Re: 94 CC DS 36 Volt With Controller issue
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Green wire to key is always hot. Key makes Blue wire hot to a switch inside speed switch. Not sure what the role of that switch is, but it makes the green white hot to limit switch 1. Not sure of the purpose of limit switch 1, but it makes the black/white wire hot to solenoid, When black/white wire is hot, Solenoid latches passing sending power to controller on yellow wire and black white wire also makes small red wire to controller hot. Ultimately, all I really need is 36 volts on the black/white wire to close the solenoid? |
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06-02-2017, 01:21 AM | #9 | |
Gone Insane
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Re: 94 CC DS 36 Volt With Controller issue
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06-02-2017, 01:31 AM | #10 |
Gone Insane
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Re: 94 CC DS 36 Volt With Controller issue
Rockford look in the stickies and match the wiring you have to the diagrams there. Then start troubleshooting. Could be anything from a micro switch to a bad solenoid, loose or wrong wiring to a bad controller. If you have what I think you do the B&W is activated from a G&W from the v glide. Check that. Also, and I know some will disagree, but for now take the diode completely OFF the solenoid until you get this thing running.
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