brake pad question

goldenknight · 07-30-2016, 10:12 AM

hey guys looking for a little help from the golf cart gurus. I am in the process of replacing my brake pads. I replaced one side and now am finishing the second wheel. A strange thing happened when putting the drum cover (not sure if that is what its called) on as it is hitting the lower part of the new pads. Do I need to do some type of adjustment? I can't really see what can I adjust to make the drum cover fit. any help would be greatly appreciated. I have an 83 marathon. (yes I know its old)

http://imgur.com/HVrhSKa

Helirich · 07-30-2016, 11:36 AM

Kind of hard to tell anything from the pic. I'm guessing the pads are not centered in the drum. They may need to be adjusted. They should "float" some. When you try to put the drum on is there extra room at the top? Can you tap the pads up?

Clemsoncartguy · 07-30-2016, 11:55 AM

And those are shoes. I was confused when you kept saying drum thing? I was thinking maybe there is a dummy drum or something. But I can't tell? I'm with Hell rich the shoes just kind of float around till the drum is added to center them . Is the adjuster adjusted in to allow them to be smaller in diameter? It adjusts out with the old Shoes wearing and when new ones are put on they won't fit in the drum since the linings are thicker and not worn out.

scottyb · 07-30-2016, 12:23 PM

The correct answer is the bottom end of the shoes are in an adjuster. There is a square head bolt on the back side. Rotate the square head bolt counter clockwise to allow the shoes to move toward the center of the wheel. If the shoes need a little help returning to center you can tap them with a clean rubber or plastic mallet.

Also it looks like you may need to tap the shoes up a little to get more center?

Helirich · 07-30-2016, 04:22 PM

Let's see, I said they may need adjusted and they may need tapped. Clemson said they may need adjusted and they may need tapped.

I'm glad Scotty figured out the correct answer is they may need adjusted and they may need tapped.

goldenknight · 07-31-2016, 01:50 PM

quick question. finally got it back together based on the recommendations. Now the brake pedal requires me to press it all the way down and honestly it almost seems non responsive. I think I made things worse

sorry, my question - do I need to do some type of adjustment to the brake line as well?

Filthy-Beast · 07-31-2016, 01:54 PM

You might to adjust the cables, Also break pads need to be broken in. Did just put new in pads in the drum, did you have them cut first?

goldenknight · 07-31-2016, 02:00 PM

not 100% sure just took them out of the package and replaced them with the old ones. what exactly is required?

Filthy-Beast · 07-31-2016, 04:17 PM

A drum can be worn uneven it's a good idea to have them cut. Basically they are put on a lathe and small amount of metal is cut off. Thus getting rid of any uneven wear or grooves and returning them to nice smooth surface. Giving your new pads a new clean place to grab a hold of when you apply the brakes.

Break-in can depend on pad composition and everybody has there own theory to boot. Did the place you buy them from have any recommendations for break-in ?

When the pads or shoes have no instructions I follow the instructions for the EBC pads I use on my jeep. They call it bedding. And have it in their FAQ http://ebcbrakes.com/about-ebc/faqs/

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scottyb · 07-31-2016, 05:11 PM

Now that the drum is on and before the wheel is installed.
Tighten the castle nut to 100 ft pounds.
Adjust the shoes out until they begin to drag on the drum as you rotate it. Access to the adjustment star is through the hole in the face of the drum. use a light and a smallish flat screwdriver.
Press the brake pedal hard 3 times. Turn the drum by hand.
If the shoe is dragging you will notice it only drags in one spot not evenly or all the time. I think it is because the drums are made to such low standards the center hole is off center, But it is consistent over hundreds of carts.
Anyway
Adjust the shoe out a little more until it takes a 5 pound effort to pass the drag spot. Pump the pedal 3 times and see if the drag stayed the same. If not re-adjust. Now you are ready for the cable adjustment. There are individual cable adjustments as well as a joint cable adjustment at the linkage equalizer where the 2 cables join up.
Inspect the equalizer and cables
If the cables & equalizer is loose adjust the equalizer. It is double nutted. Do not take all the slack out of the linkage. some is needed for the park brake release.

07-30-2016, 10:12 AM	#1
goldenknight Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 21	brake pad question hey guys looking for a little help from the golf cart gurus. I am in the process of replacing my brake pads. I replaced one side and now am finishing the second wheel. A strange thing happened when putting the drum cover (not sure if that is what its called) on as it is hitting the lower part of the new pads. Do I need to do some type of adjustment? I can't really see what can I adjust to make the drum cover fit. any help would be greatly appreciated. I have an 83 marathon. (yes I know its old) http://imgur.com/HVrhSKa
goldenknight Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 21

07-30-2016, 11:36 AM	#2
Helirich Gone Wild Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 572	Re: brake pad question Kind of hard to tell anything from the pic. I'm guessing the pads are not centered in the drum. They may need to be adjusted. They should "float" some. When you try to put the drum on is there extra room at the top? Can you tap the pads up?
Helirich Gone Wild Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 572

07-30-2016, 11:55 AM	#3
Clemsoncartguy Gone Wild Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Greenwood, SC Posts: 1,291	Re: brake pad question And those are shoes. I was confused when you kept saying drum thing? I was thinking maybe there is a dummy drum or something. But I can't tell? I'm with Hell rich the shoes just kind of float around till the drum is added to center them . Is the adjuster adjusted in to allow them to be smaller in diameter? It adjusts out with the old Shoes wearing and when new ones are put on they won't fit in the drum since the linings are thicker and not worn out.

07-30-2016, 12:23 PM	#4
scottyb Happy Carting Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 73,418	Re: brake pad question The correct answer is the bottom end of the shoes are in an adjuster. There is a square head bolt on the back side. Rotate the square head bolt counter clockwise to allow the shoes to move toward the center of the wheel. If the shoes need a little help returning to center you can tap them with a clean rubber or plastic mallet. Also it looks like you may need to tap the shoes up a little to get more center?

07-30-2016, 04:22 PM	#5
Helirich Gone Wild Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 572	Re: brake pad question Let's see, I said they may need adjusted and they may need tapped. Clemson said they may need adjusted and they may need tapped. I'm glad Scotty figured out the correct answer is they may need adjusted and they may need tapped.
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07-31-2016, 01:50 PM	#6
goldenknight Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 21	Re: brake pad question quick question. finally got it back together based on the recommendations. Now the brake pedal requires me to press it all the way down and honestly it almost seems non responsive. I think I made things worse sorry, my question - do I need to do some type of adjustment to the brake line as well?
goldenknight Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 21

07-31-2016, 01:54 PM	#7
Filthy-Beast Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Chicago Area Posts: 73	Re: brake pad question You might to adjust the cables, Also break pads need to be broken in. Did just put new in pads in the drum, did you have them cut first?

07-31-2016, 02:00 PM	#8
goldenknight Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 21	Re: brake pad question not 100% sure just took them out of the package and replaced them with the old ones. what exactly is required?
goldenknight Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 21

07-31-2016, 04:17 PM	#9
Filthy-Beast Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Chicago Area Posts: 73	A drum can be worn uneven it's a good idea to have them cut. Basically they are put on a lathe and small amount of metal is cut off. Thus getting rid of any uneven wear or grooves and returning them to nice smooth surface. Giving your new pads a new clean place to grab a hold of when you apply the brakes. Break-in can depend on pad composition and everybody has there own theory to boot. Did the place you buy them from have any recommendations for break-in ? When the pads or shoes have no instructions I follow the instructions for the EBC pads I use on my jeep. They call it bedding. And have it in their FAQ http://ebcbrakes.com/about-ebc/faqs/ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

07-31-2016, 05:11 PM	#10
scottyb Happy Carting Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 73,418	Re: brake pad question Now that the drum is on and before the wheel is installed. Tighten the castle nut to 100 ft pounds. Adjust the shoes out until they begin to drag on the drum as you rotate it. Access to the adjustment star is through the hole in the face of the drum. use a light and a smallish flat screwdriver. Press the brake pedal hard 3 times. Turn the drum by hand. If the shoe is dragging you will notice it only drags in one spot not evenly or all the time. I think it is because the drums are made to such low standards the center hole is off center, But it is consistent over hundreds of carts. Anyway Adjust the shoe out a little more until it takes a 5 pound effort to pass the drag spot. Pump the pedal 3 times and see if the drag stayed the same. If not re-adjust. Now you are ready for the cable adjustment. There are individual cable adjustments as well as a joint cable adjustment at the linkage equalizer where the 2 cables join up. Inspect the equalizer and cables If the cables & equalizer is loose adjust the equalizer. It is double nutted. Do not take all the slack out of the linkage. some is needed for the park brake release.

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