42 volts

[scottyb]

It will have a voltage rating on it.

[Naturile]

Alright I'll have to take it out to read it, tried looking at it with a mirror but my eyes aren't what they used to be! Maybe need to see an eye doc thanks Scottie!

[scottyb]

Hold the cell phone camera down there and then blow it up big when you view - rookie

[JohnnieB]

Originally Posted by Naturile

Alright I'll have to take it out to read it, tried looking at it with a mirror but my eyes aren't what they used to be! Maybe need to see an eye doc thanks Scottie!

Originally Posted by scottyb

Hold the cell phone camera down there and then blow it up big when you view - rookie

You can also take a picture of the image reflected in a mirror.
Since a mirror is a two way street for light, the flash on the camera will illuminate the hidden object.
Many photo viewing programs have a horizontal flip feature, so you can view a mirror image of a mirror image and the lettering is no longer backwards.

[eflyguy]

You won't regret going 42V if you have any kind of hills to deal with. HUGE improvement!

[bxlt]

Originally Posted by scottyb

You won't see the same speeds a PDS cart makes on any voltage. The DCS cart makes more torque than a PDS ans more speed than a series cart.
Basically a PDS on 36v goes 24mph without the controller limiting top speed -
The same set up in a DCS cart results in 20 mph. Add something like 17.5% (42v) and your top speed on stock tires would be 23.5 with a bout a 50% improvement in torque over the stock control...
Recap for DCS cart with pkg 808 and 42v
gain 10mph and 50% torque

Thanks for the answer, I already have the 400amp controller from you (ready for a 48v setup) and am just needing that final push over the fence on what to do, sadly that didn't totally answer it for me.

Going to the 400amp controller was a nice improvement, and I'm not sure what I really want more, range or speed. And again not sure I want to try and shoe horn in 8 batteries under the seat.

My problem is I don't know what to expect out of a healthy pack, my batteries are 2007s I bought the cart in 2012 and I didn't take the best care out of them for the first year and a half so they are toast, Right now I would say max range is about 3-4 miles (and that might be stretching it)

For what I have been using the cart for that is almost enough but then if I could get double or triple that I might use the cart more and who knows if I had a 20+ mile range what I might do, heck I might drive it to town

[yurtle]

Get your money's worth out of the batts. Mine lasted 9 years and served my needs. As long as you keep them charging whenever you're not driving, you may get a few years more out of them. I could have squeezed a few more years out of mine, based on driving conditions, but got the 48 volt bug.

[JohnnieB]

Originally Posted by bxlt

Thanks for the answer, I already have the 400amp controller from you (ready for a 48v setup) and am just needing that final push over the fence on what to do, sadly that didn't totally answer it for me.

Going to the 400amp controller was a nice improvement, and I'm not sure what I really want more, range or speed. And again not sure I want to try and shoe horn in 8 batteries under the seat.

My problem is I don't know what to expect out of a healthy pack, my batteries are 2007s I bought the cart in 2012 and I didn't take the best care out of them for the first year and a half so they are toast, Right now I would say max range is about 3-4 miles (and that might be stretching it)

For what I have been using the cart for that is almost enough but then if I could get double or triple that I might use the cart more and who knows if I had a 20+ mile range what I might do, heck I might drive it to town

I don't know what the range is on a stock DCS cart, however with a standard 225AH 36V battery pack you ought to get about about a one hour run-time and a stock DCS cart does about 14MPH, so that should be in the neighborhood of 14 Miles. With a DCX400 controller in it, it might have a bit more range.

Toss a seventh battery in and you'll get 16.7% more range (and speed)

Basically, range is determined by the effiency of the cart and the number of kWh of energy yuou are carrying with you in the battery pack, A 36V 225AH battery pack will store about 8.1kWh and a 42V 225AH battery pack stores about 9.45kWh which is 16+.7% more, so the cart should go 16.7% further.

As for speed, if you end up with more than you want, turn off the Turbo mode and lower the Max speed slider.

[bxlt]

Originally Posted by yurtle

Get your money's worth out of the batts. Mine lasted 9 years and served my needs. As long as you keep them charging whenever you're not driving, you may get a few years more out of them. I could have squeezed a few more years out of mine, based on driving conditions, but got the 48 volt bug.

Yurtle well maintained batteries can get you 9 years, I know for a fact that for a year and a half that I owned the cart they were very poorly maintained, and even that is an understatement.

Like I said the range I have now is working for how I use the cart now, do a parade put cart back in the garage until the next parade and then the occasional trip over to the in laws about 1/2 mile. On Labor Day weekend we we actually use the cart the most and by the end of the night on Saturday its pretty much toast (2 mile parade, charge for 6 hours, then 4 to 6 1/2 mile trips) By the end of the day I am only hoping we make it back to the charger so pretty sure new batteries could help that out, even cheap ones have to be better than what I have.

Originally Posted by JohnnieB

I don't know what the range is on a stock DCS cart, however with a standard 225AH 36V battery pack you ought to get about about a one hour run-time and a stock DCS cart does about 14MPH, so that should be in the neighborhood of 14 Miles. With a DCX400 controller in it, it might have a bit more range.

Toss a seventh battery in and you'll get 16.7% more range (and speed)

Basically, range is determined by the effiency of the cart and the number of kWh of energy yuou are carrying with you in the battery pack, A 36V 225AH battery pack will store about 8.1kWh and a 42V 225AH battery pack stores about 9.45kWh which is 16+.7% more, so the cart should go 16.7% further.

As for speed, if you end up with more than you want, turn off the Turbo mode and lower the Max speed slider.

So I think I haven't been comparing apples to apples, I was think the results of a 42v or 48v conversion would yield similar results to that of a PDS cart. However a range of 14 miles to me would be amazing! So I could go 48v and get a nice speed increase (less than to be expected on a PDS cart and) and still have a nice range (compared to what I have now).

[JohnnieB]

Originally Posted by bxlt

So I think I haven't been comparing apples to apples, I was think the results of a 42v or 48v conversion would yield similar results to that of a PDS cart. However a range of 14 miles to me would be amazing! So I could go 48v and get a nice speed increase (less than to be expected on a PDS cart and) and still have a nice range (compared to what I have now).

Even with a standard (225AH) 36V pack, you'll probably get more than 14 Miles. I forgot to take Regen braking into consideration when I did the rough guesstimate a couple posts back. That puts some of the energy back into the battery and extends the range.

When my PDS was stock except for 2Ga cables, it had a 20+ mile range and after installing 18.3" tires and a DCX400 controller, the range was 25+ miles on a set of 3 year old T-105 batteries. (36V - 225AH)

When I went to a 42V - 245AH pack with a DCX400 and stock PDS motor, my range estimate would vary from 28 to 36 miles depending on how hard I drove the cart.

My range with a DCX500 and a 10.5 HP motor varies from 28 to 34 miles.

I don't know how close a DCS will come to those numbers, but I suspect they will be in the neighborhood if the cart is in good mechanical condition and electrical condition.
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How much range you will have at 48V, depends on how you get 48V.

Attached is a list of several 48V combinations using both 8 X 6V batteries and 6 X 8V batteries.
The ones highlighted with a Yellow background have the same approximate range as a standard 36V-225AH battery pack.