DS Starter

ztekdesign · 03-27-2009, 07:15 AM

I have a 99 model DS and lately the starter seems to struggle to turn the engine over sometimes. If I let off and push the pedal down a couple time it will take right off. Sometimes it will start with no problem. I installed a new battery thinking that was the problem but it didn't help. Cable connections all seem to be good. Could the starter brushes be bad? How do I check and is there a procedure or breakdown for replacing them?

crash12888 · 03-27-2009, 08:23 AM

Yes brushes could be going south.
First, make sure the cart is in maintenance mode or nuetral or rear wheels up on stands.
take a jumper wire and connect from the pos battery post to the pos side of the solenoid, watch the starter.
Do this several times, does it act the same as before? If yes then actually remove the cables from the battery to the solenoid and starter and clean them. They may look good but still have corrosion
try the jumper again, any better? If not then assume brushes
If you did the jumper and it seems better then you have a voltage drop in the starting circuit that supplies voltage to the solenoid either through a dirty connection, key switch or micro switch.
This is just something to check before you get into the starter.

CartTrader · 03-27-2009, 12:04 PM

I had that happen to my CC. Stuggle to start..let up and push peddle again, sometimes 3 or 4 times before it would start. Went to replace brushes thinking they were bad. Old ones looked like new. Turned out all I had to do was tighten the starter belt. Belt was just a tad loose and slipping making me think it was the starter. I`d try tightening the starter first.

CartTrader

ztekdesign · 03-27-2009, 12:48 PM

I just checked the starter belt tension. In maintenance mode I can actually watch the starter stall out when it's trying to turn over the engine. It acts like it's weak and doesn't have any power. It struggles until it gets past the compression stroke of the engine. I'm just going to take it out and drop it off at the local alternator/starter repair guy in town. I will have him test it out and inspect the brushes.

crash12888 · 03-29-2009, 03:41 PM

Let us know of the outcome.

ztekdesign · 04-01-2009, 07:19 AM

Well it's all better now. The guy at the starter/alternator place told me the brushes had plenty of life but that one seemed to be hanging up and it was extremely dirty inside. So he cleaned everything up really well for me and tested it. I installed it last night and it's a night and day difference. Starts every time now. Thanks for all your help and suggestions.

scottyb · 04-01-2009, 07:26 AM

I love it when a real mechanic can fix a problem instead of replacing it!

dcannow · 04-01-2009, 02:46 PM

:

Dirty Dang!! We lost a customer to one of those Hi-Tech mechanics. We weren't wrong we just ran out of time.

mike6176 · 07-18-2009, 07:18 PM

I've got the exact same problem with my 93 CC, tomorrow I'll put the starter on the bench and see what the brushes look like. I'm betting its a pretty cheap fix compared to a new starter.

I knew this forum was a good idea!

Thanks!

Mike6176

03-27-2009, 07:15 AM	#1
ztekdesign Not Yet Wild Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shawano WI Posts: 10	DS Starter I have a 99 model DS and lately the starter seems to struggle to turn the engine over sometimes. If I let off and push the pedal down a couple time it will take right off. Sometimes it will start with no problem. I installed a new battery thinking that was the problem but it didn't help. Cable connections all seem to be good. Could the starter brushes be bad? How do I check and is there a procedure or breakdown for replacing them?

03-27-2009, 08:23 AM	#2
crash12888 Gone Crazy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chesterfield, Va Posts: 6,021	Re: DS Starter Yes brushes could be going south. First, make sure the cart is in maintenance mode or nuetral or rear wheels up on stands. take a jumper wire and connect from the pos battery post to the pos side of the solenoid, watch the starter. Do this several times, does it act the same as before? If yes then actually remove the cables from the battery to the solenoid and starter and clean them. They may look good but still have corrosion try the jumper again, any better? If not then assume brushes If you did the jumper and it seems better then you have a voltage drop in the starting circuit that supplies voltage to the solenoid either through a dirty connection, key switch or micro switch. This is just something to check before you get into the starter.

03-27-2009, 12:04 PM	#3
CartTrader Gone Wild Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ohio-In Summer, Central Florida-In winter Posts: 889	Re: DS Starter I had that happen to my CC. Stuggle to start..let up and push peddle again, sometimes 3 or 4 times before it would start. Went to replace brushes thinking they were bad. Old ones looked like new. Turned out all I had to do was tighten the starter belt. Belt was just a tad loose and slipping making me think it was the starter. I`d try tightening the starter first. CartTrader

03-27-2009, 12:48 PM	#4
ztekdesign Not Yet Wild Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shawano WI Posts: 10	Re: DS Starter I just checked the starter belt tension. In maintenance mode I can actually watch the starter stall out when it's trying to turn over the engine. It acts like it's weak and doesn't have any power. It struggles until it gets past the compression stroke of the engine. I'm just going to take it out and drop it off at the local alternator/starter repair guy in town. I will have him test it out and inspect the brushes.

03-29-2009, 03:41 PM	#5
crash12888 Gone Crazy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chesterfield, Va Posts: 6,021	Re: DS Starter Let us know of the outcome.

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04-01-2009, 07:19 AM	#6
ztekdesign Not Yet Wild Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shawano WI Posts: 10	Re: DS Starter Well it's all better now. The guy at the starter/alternator place told me the brushes had plenty of life but that one seemed to be hanging up and it was extremely dirty inside. So he cleaned everything up really well for me and tested it. I installed it last night and it's a night and day difference. Starts every time now. Thanks for all your help and suggestions.

04-01-2009, 07:26 AM	#7
scottyb Happy Carting Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 73,417	Re: DS Starter I love it when a real mechanic can fix a problem instead of replacing it!

04-01-2009, 02:46 PM	#8
dcannow Gone Wild Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Liberty Lake, WA Posts: 479	Re: DS Starter :Dirty Dang!! We lost a customer to one of those Hi-Tech mechanics. We weren't wrong we just ran out of time.

07-18-2009, 07:18 PM	#9
mike6176 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 12	Re: DS Starter I've got the exact same problem with my 93 CC, tomorrow I'll put the starter on the bench and see what the brushes look like. I'm betting its a pretty cheap fix compared to a new starter. I knew this forum was a good idea! Thanks! Mike6176
mike6176 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 12

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