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08-29-2010, 09:40 PM | #1 |
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2 Stroke Maximum RPM
After tightening down the governor, I am running about 22 MPH, I haven't yet put a tach on it. As always, looking for a little more. So, what is the safe max rpm of these motors. It's a G3A Sun Classic. Runs really well.
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08-30-2010, 11:41 AM | #2 |
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Re: 2 Stroke Maximum RPM
Is that the 2 stroke like a G1? I'm not sure there is one. The generator lists a max but I ran one down roads for years with no governor, decked head, ported, advanced timing, etc, on standard cart tires. It screamed....no problems. That was originally a sled motor that ran 7K rpm all the time.
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08-30-2010, 04:30 PM | #3 |
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Re: 2 Stroke Maximum RPM
i know on my g9 the motor is good till 5500 rpm, but the starter gen is only good till 4200 or somthing like that.
don't know how similer the starter gens are on the g9-g1 motors, thats a question for dave (smallblock450sl) |
08-30-2010, 06:12 PM | #4 |
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Re: 2 Stroke Maximum RPM
I did the exact same thing and get the exact same max speed (22mph). I would think that even with the governor disabled you would have a hard time over reving that engine esp with bigger tires! I don't think it could do it. Now the generator is another matter, for short periods, you are likely ok.
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08-30-2010, 07:51 PM | #5 |
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Re: 2 Stroke Maximum RPM
I'm sure the generators are similar. Mine ran at least 30 mph without a doubt, on 18" stock tires. Also had another one that ran a little slower. Those two were the fastest two carts out of 60 G1s all tested with the governor clamped...lol, then I went to work on them. Sure wish I still had old #6. When I got my G9 I thought man what a dog these 4 strokes are.
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08-30-2010, 09:27 PM | #6 |
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Re: 2 Stroke Maximum RPM
Thanks for the input....
So, the generator/starter seems to be the weak link, so how about some linkage, attached to the throttle, that disengages the generator at WOT? Should be easy to do |
08-30-2010, 09:29 PM | #7 |
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Re: 2 Stroke Maximum RPM
"Tested with the governor clamped". Where is the governor and how do you disable it? I would like to do some "testing" too, but I need to know a little more. I'm new to golf carts and 2-strokes.
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08-30-2010, 11:04 PM | #8 |
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Re: 2 Stroke Maximum RPM
Not trying to hijack my own thread, but has anyone done an electric clutch on the starter/generator? If the motor is good for 7k, but the gen/str isn't because it's running 14k, seems like a simple solution. Also solves the short high speed issues.
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08-31-2010, 12:02 AM | #9 |
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Re: 2 Stroke Maximum RPM
It is likely you could put a larger pulley on the generator and slow it some, and still have enough power to start it. Issue here is nobody has had a problem with them failing far as I know. You could also put an idler on the belt like a lawnmower, to loosen it at speed.
To defeat the governor temporarily on a G1, get some of the small size vice grips and place them as shown; the needle nose type work best. Clamp the spring arm to the bracket. Make sure they clear the intake hose as the throttle moves! The speed adjustment screw is on the other side, on the other arm of the spring. If you run it a long time like this the increased pressure will shorten the throttle cable life and possibly the governor. One cart even broke the governor shaft in the trans, that is how I ended up modding that cart as it was unfit for service. Yeah, I didn't tell them I could split the trans and fix it lol. Golfers stuck something in there and it held the throttle open all the time. |
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