G29 speed increase on a budget?

jrock81 · 04-19-2019, 10:43 AM

Im looking at a 2013 yamaha, to increase the speed i need a controller at minimum? From there i can add a better motor ? I take it a 300 alltrax and bigger wires are the minimum would need? would i benifit from a 500 controller for later if i end up getting a motor ?
Also is there any model differences for 2013?

cgtech · 04-19-2019, 04:11 PM

What speed is it now? What speed do you require? (Both In mph please)

jrock81 · 04-19-2019, 05:10 PM

Just factory, looking to do 20 at least

jrock81 · 04-20-2019, 12:43 PM

Vin is jw9 311227 if that helps, it's currently at 12mph and i plan to get 22 inch tires as well

cgtech · 04-20-2019, 03:14 PM

Stock controller can be upgraded to 19mph by dealer (which would be a little over 20 with the new tires), but it will still perform poorly and have a short life with the new tires. I suggest just skipping straight to a new controller 400a or larger. Glad you mentioned the tire size plans. This will require new cables for batteries And motor. The stock motor probably won't really like your large tire plans for too long, so start saving your pennies for a motor upgrade in the future. ScottyB has the best deals I know of.

Whatever you do, don't even consider high speed gears, the performance would be horrible, while killing the motor and controller.

Raptorbob · 04-20-2019, 06:19 PM

I have a 2018 Edrive PTV with a factory lift kit. Dealer tried inputting a speed code to get the cart from 15MPH to 20MPH. Apparently the factory had the controller locked out and the speed code would not take. I had the dealer install speed gears. (14.5:1 to 8:1 ratio). Speed went from 15MPH to 23MPH with no loss in performance at the low end. The cart has 20" diameter tires. I am very happy with the way it performs. By the way I live in Florida so do not have to contend with hills.

cgtech · 04-20-2019, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptorbob

I have a 2018 Edrive PTV with a factory lift kit. Dealer tried inputting a speed code to get the cart from 15MPH to 20MPH. Apparently the factory had the controller locked out and the speed code would not take. I had the dealer install speed gears. (14.5:1 to 8:1 ratio). Speed went from 15MPH to 23MPH with no loss in performance at the low end. The cart has 20" diameter tires. I am very happy with the way it performs. By the way I live in Florida so do not have to contend with hills.

You have a a AC power train, OP does not. And I have done gears on AC carts (10.5:1), and I know the claim of "no performance penalty" is just not true. It's a problem with physics, it just ain't physically gonna happen.

Raptorbob · 04-21-2019, 07:17 AM

All that I can relate is what I feel in the seat of my pants. The cart accelerates fine, starts off smooth, no jerkyness. It accelerated really fast before and then when it reached 15MPH you could feel the power drop off like it was being retarded. I don't feel that now. Perhaps the acceleration is a little less but is wholly acceptable. You are right about the physics but in my case it was a good trade. Happy Easter

04-19-2019, 10:43 AM	#1
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cgtech Over This Interview Is... Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: AZ Posts: 17,449	Re: G29 speed increase on a budget? What speed is it now? What speed do you require? (Both In mph please)

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04-20-2019, 12:43 PM	#4
jrock81 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 16	Re: G29 speed increase on a budget? Vin is jw9 311227 if that helps, it's currently at 12mph and i plan to get 22 inch tires as well
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04-20-2019, 03:14 PM	#5
cgtech Over This Interview Is... Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: AZ Posts: 17,449	Re: G29 speed increase on a budget? Stock controller can be upgraded to 19mph by dealer (which would be a little over 20 with the new tires), but it will still perform poorly and have a short life with the new tires. I suggest just skipping straight to a new controller 400a or larger. Glad you mentioned the tire size plans. This will require new cables for batteries And motor. The stock motor probably won't really like your large tire plans for too long, so start saving your pennies for a motor upgrade in the future. ScottyB has the best deals I know of. Whatever you do, don't even consider high speed gears, the performance would be horrible, while killing the motor and controller.

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04-20-2019, 06:19 PM	#6
Raptorbob Not Yet Wild Join Date: May 2018 Location: Florida Posts: 12	Re: G29 speed increase on a budget? I have a 2018 Edrive PTV with a factory lift kit. Dealer tried inputting a speed code to get the cart from 15MPH to 20MPH. Apparently the factory had the controller locked out and the speed code would not take. I had the dealer install speed gears. (14.5:1 to 8:1 ratio). Speed went from 15MPH to 23MPH with no loss in performance at the low end. The cart has 20" diameter tires. I am very happy with the way it performs. By the way I live in Florida so do not have to contend with hills.

04-21-2019, 07:17 AM	#8
Raptorbob Not Yet Wild Join Date: May 2018 Location: Florida Posts: 12	Re: G29 speed increase on a budget? All that I can relate is what I feel in the seat of my pants. The cart accelerates fine, starts off smooth, no jerkyness. It accelerated really fast before and then when it reached 15MPH you could feel the power drop off like it was being retarded. I don't feel that now. Perhaps the acceleration is a little less but is wholly acceptable. You are right about the physics but in my case it was a good trade. Happy Easter

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