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Old 01-26-2020, 11:44 AM   #1
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Default Front wheels dipping

Hi guys, I was hoping you all could help me diagnose this. I'm having problems with the front wheels dipping in..the golf cart is starting to look like that new trend with rice burner cars where they angle the wheels/tires inward.

I have replaced the front shocks as they were old, and needed to be updated, but the problem still exists. If you need better photos I can do that. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


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Old 01-26-2020, 12:22 PM   #2
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Since the shocks are new... the only things left would be. Super shot wheel bearings... (but that’s probably not the case) or the leaf spring is getting old and losing its strength ...... my money is on the leaf spring.


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Old 01-26-2020, 12:49 PM   #3
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Thanks for the response... I think I also need to replace some bushings (not sure if that is the proper term for them)?? You can literally see the bushing debris from them being cracked off...

In the pictures below, im pointing to a bolt that appears to be tight, but there is like no bushing around it and theres some play between the two parts. What would this bushing be called? It is the bolt directly under the bolt that holds the shock. Thanks

https://ibb.co/VJJQTgZ
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Leaf spring bushing debris:

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Old 01-26-2020, 02:15 PM   #4
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Thanks for the response... I think I also need to replace some bushings (not sure if that is the proper term for them)?? You can literally see the bushing debris from them being cracked off...

In the pictures below, im pointing to a bolt that appears to be tight, but there is like no bushing around it and theres some play between the two parts. What would this bushing be called? It is the bolt directly under the bolt that holds the shock. Thanks

https://ibb.co/VJJQTgZ
https://ibb.co/fpBKD7b


Leaf spring bushing debris:

https://ibb.co/r7yCbYP
https://ibb.co/fpBKD7b
The first set of pictures are the a-arm bushing, and like you stated the other are spring bushings. I would replace them all. From what the guys on this form say a spindle lift is hard on these bushings.
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Old 01-26-2020, 03:38 PM   #5
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Pull on the top of the tire, trying to make it stand vertical. If the tire goes vertical and you hear the bolts banging around then the bushings are the issue. If it moves some but not vertical, then the leaf spring is probably weak.


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Old 01-26-2020, 06:20 PM   #6
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Thanks for your help! Might as well start with the bushings as I am 100% sure they are completely gone. But, I would hate to order the wrong parts, so I was hoping you could verify that I am looking at the right set to buy:

http://www.amazon.com/Bushing-Front-Lower-Spring-Precedent http://www.amazon.com/Bushing-Front-Lower-Spring-Precedent

Since i have the 6inch lift kit, I am unsure if I need something different or if these would work. Also, I'm not trying to be cheap about this...if there is something better, please let me know if you wouldn't mind
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Old 01-26-2020, 06:27 PM   #7
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Thanks for your help! Might as well start with the bushings as I am 100% sure they are completely gone. But, I would hate to order the wrong parts, so I was hoping you could verify that I am looking at the right set to buy:

http://www.amazon.com/Bushing-Front-Lower-Spring-Precedent

Since i have the 6inch lift kit, I am unsure if I need something different or if these would work. Also, I'm not trying to be cheap about this...if there is something better, please let me know if you wouldn't mind
If you want quality parts I would get them from a site sponsor https://www.revolutiongolfcars.com/ I has everything you need.
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Old 01-26-2020, 11:47 PM   #8
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Get the polyurethane bushings that Revolution sells.
You need the inner and outer control arm bushings and the leaf spring bushings. Give David a call and he’ll get you the right stuff. That Chinese stuff on amazon won’t last two months on your lifted cart.
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Old 01-27-2020, 10:44 AM   #9
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Thanks guys...greatly appreciated.
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Old 01-27-2020, 12:31 PM   #10
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if there is something better, please let me know if you wouldn't mind
The best thing to do IMHO is replace the spindle lift with a Allsports A-Arm lift. With the A-Arms lift you will have adjustments for Camber and Toe. It might seem more expensive at first but the final cost will be less when you add up all parts costs. Besides that spindle lift may have thrown the geometry off so much it can't be corrected completely.
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