Any ides from anyone on this

TheNewGuy · 05-20-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ic746

GMB74 well I just ordered me one of them springs sure hope it helps, Im pretty sure Tom is the owner of that site because I have purchased from him before.
Thanks again buddy.
Calvin

Yep, that Tom's place "CPP" great folks to deal with.

crash12888 · 05-21-2010, 06:08 AM

Automotive fans draw alot of amps and should be activated with a relay, you might consider a marine engine compartment blower fan.
low amps draw, moves a bunch of air and is round so you can run the 4" or 5" flex hose to it/from it.

essness · 05-21-2010, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by crash12888

Automotive fans draw alot of amps and should be activated with a relay, you might consider a marine engine compartment blower fan.
low amps draw, moves a bunch of air and is round so you can run the 4" or 5" flex hose to it/from it.

Brilliant Crash!

They move ALOT of air as well.

kogieblack · 05-21-2010, 07:17 AM

Try a computer (PC) fan. Not sure though if it is 12V. Wire it in a such a way that it will only be activated when you press the gas pedal. At the same time, put in an exhaust fan that would blow the hot air out.

essness · 05-21-2010, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kogieblack

Try a computer (PC) fan. Not sure though if it is 12V. Wire it in a such a way that it will only be activated when you press the gas pedal. At the same time, put in an exhaust fan that would blow the hot air out.

Antother great idea! Thanks Art.
I sell these to GE for their production of medical equipment. They are extremely reliable.
I'm pretty sure these folks sell retail.
http://www.alliedelec.com/search/sea...FQrxDAodznq0Kw

At roughly $8.00 ea you could buy a few of them for intake and exaust

kogieblack · 05-21-2010, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by essness

Antother great idea! Thanks Art.
I sell these to GE for their production of medical equipment. They are extremely reliable.
I'm pretty sure these folks sell retail.
http://www.alliedelec.com/search/sea...FQrxDAodznq0Kw

At roughly $8.00 ea you could buy a few of them for intake and exaust

Wow! You got a whole bunch of fans in there. I might as well use my idea on my G1. Not sure how to wire it though. Probably a separate relay.

essness · 05-21-2010, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kogieblack

Wow! You got a whole bunch of fans in there. I might as well use my idea on my G1. Not sure how to wire it though. Probably a separate relay.

I'd take the hot side right off the pedal. If you look at the data sheets, the amp draw is minimal even at start up.

spriddle · 05-21-2010, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TheNewGuy

Yep, that Tom's place "CPP" great folks to deal with.

They sure are and Ron said Tom was cute too.

sho305 · 05-21-2010, 07:57 AM

I think I would look for a fan off a motorcycle or ATV, or they have some smaller fans for trans coolers on cars. Something like this:
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/52111/10002/-1
http://www.jegs.com/i/Derale/259/16910/10002/-1
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/52112/10002/-1

You would have to research if you want to slow one down, some of them really scream. That one is 4.5 amps, that should be do-able on a cart if its not idling all the time.

Don't know if you need a relay with them but they are only a few dollars anyway, but I was going to stick a snapdisk switch on the cowling of the engine where the air blows out (HVAC fan switch). Adjustable ones are more but set ones are <$10. Grainger has them make sure you get a 'close on rise' to activate the fan. I don't know what temp maybe 140 or more, you can move or insulate it to affect operation.

Relay: http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...ource=googleps
Or hock one out of an old junk GM car they have banks of them under the hood. Buy one with the harness if you don't like to wire.

This was cheapest way I could figure to do it and have automotive grade components more or less. A PC fan is not going to move enough air to make a difference IMO. Even with this fan you will need to keep the vent open I don't think the one Newguy has is going to flow a lot of air. If you are pulling a big deck mower at limited ground speed it will need some air. Remember that G1 also has a massive muffler heating everything up in there. I don't know if a heat shield on it would work well or not, it would help sure but would it overheat the muffler or something near it. It would also be nice to have a panel/duct under the fan so it draws the heat off the engine/exhaust more instead of sucking from the axle, not sure what is possible there though the bag well must be fairly close to the frame anyway. Either way one of those fans should help quite a bit I would think.

TheNewGuy · 05-21-2010, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by spriddle

They sure are and Ron said Tom was cute too.

Cute as a button!

05-21-2010, 06:08 AM	#12
crash12888 Gone Crazy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chesterfield, Va Posts: 6,021	Re: Any ides from anyone on this Automotive fans draw alot of amps and should be activated with a relay, you might consider a marine engine compartment blower fan. low amps draw, moves a bunch of air and is round so you can run the 4" or 5" flex hose to it/from it.

05-21-2010, 07:17 AM	#14
kogieblack Gone Wild Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Vegas NV Posts: 262	Re: Any ides from anyone on this Try a computer (PC) fan. Not sure though if it is 12V. Wire it in a such a way that it will only be activated when you press the gas pedal. At the same time, put in an exhaust fan that would blow the hot air out.

05-21-2010, 07:57 AM	#19
sho305 Vegas modded 420 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: West MI Posts: 15,445	Re: Any ides from anyone on this I think I would look for a fan off a motorcycle or ATV, or they have some smaller fans for trans coolers on cars. Something like this: http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/52111/10002/-1 http://www.jegs.com/i/Derale/259/16910/10002/-1 http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/52112/10002/-1 You would have to research if you want to slow one down, some of them really scream. That one is 4.5 amps, that should be do-able on a cart if its not idling all the time. Don't know if you need a relay with them but they are only a few dollars anyway, but I was going to stick a snapdisk switch on the cowling of the engine where the air blows out (HVAC fan switch). Adjustable ones are more but set ones are <$10. Grainger has them make sure you get a 'close on rise' to activate the fan. I don't know what temp maybe 140 or more, you can move or insulate it to affect operation. Relay: http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...ource=googleps Or hock one out of an old junk GM car they have banks of them under the hood. Buy one with the harness if you don't like to wire. This was cheapest way I could figure to do it and have automotive grade components more or less. A PC fan is not going to move enough air to make a difference IMO. Even with this fan you will need to keep the vent open I don't think the one Newguy has is going to flow a lot of air. If you are pulling a big deck mower at limited ground speed it will need some air. Remember that G1 also has a massive muffler heating everything up in there. I don't know if a heat shield on it would work well or not, it would help sure but would it overheat the muffler or something near it. It would also be nice to have a panel/duct under the fan so it draws the heat off the engine/exhaust more instead of sucking from the axle, not sure what is possible there though the bag well must be fairly close to the frame anyway. Either way one of those fans should help quite a bit I would think.

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