Another question about the VIN

BornOnFire · 05-07-2011, 10:06 AM

Greetings! New member here. Just picked up my Par Cart and for the life of me, am having a hard time deciphering the VIN. I searched through the archives here and found the basic info on letter number combos and I even DL'ed the Colmumbia Service Manual PDF but I still have issues. My VIN seems to be odd.

I read fellow member "Tech Support's" posts where he can decipher origination mfg date etc...that's probably who will put me on the right path....so, here it is. The sticker/plate reads exactly like this:

P4G-SE
P4S11#0ZF1359

Any help would be appreciated.
If it's any consolation, the aluminum pulley on the drivers side axle has a sticker on it that reads "November 2005".

TIA!

BornOnFire · 05-08-2011, 12:32 PM

Well, I will answer my own post I guess...

Looks like I have an '07 Special Edition with the 13 HP motor! BONUS!!!!

BornOnFire · 05-08-2011, 01:23 PM

Here's some pics of the Cart. I put a bow on it and presented to my wife for Mother's Day! I know, I'm such a nice guy....

Tech Support · 05-09-2011, 08:11 AM

You already know the most of it. The # sign meant it was build as a special, because we used the Hitachi starter/generator in lieu of the standard unit. The SE at the end meant it had the lift kit installed.

Last registered in Tuscon AZ, purchase date of 3/1/07.

BornOnFire · 05-09-2011, 09:51 AM

Wow. Thanks so much for that.

I had no idea that there was a lift kit installed. I guess I didn't look hard enough. It does have the Over-sized DOT tires on it so maybe that's why the lift was installed? Is there any information as far as who it was sold/registered to? Unfortunately, the auction house did not provide the Title and I was hopefully going to try and hunt the original down before going on the long and grueling process of getting a Replacement title from the MVD. Thanks so much for your service to us Columbia owners on here. Very much appreciated by me and I'm sure the others as well. Do you recommend a resource for Par Cart after-market items such as seat belts, seat covers, etc... It's pretty much slim pickings out there in the inter-web land!

Sorry for all the questions...

BornOnFire · 05-09-2011, 10:28 AM

Looked at the factory installed lift kit and it looks like a spacer lift setup. 1-1/2" spacer in front installed under the center leaf support and two 2" blocks under the axle at the shock perch in the rear.Does the installation of this kit also require extended knuckles and spindles in the front? This cart just keeps getting better and better!

Tech Support · 05-09-2011, 01:39 PM

It's a general 2" lift kit on the SE. The SE is available as a street legal unit, which required the ability to put on larger tires, and therefore the lift. It required different spindles than the LE model.

It was originally sold through Modern Lift Inc, which sold to Beaudry RV in Tuscon. We didn't issue titles for non-street vehicles, just MCO's (Manuf Cert of Origin). It would have gone back to the dealer (Modern Lift in Tuscon (520-882-6380).

OEM parts have to pretty much come through a dealer (things like spindles which are manufactured specifically), but aftermarket items can be found from most of the site sponsors thorugh here. A seat belt is a seat belt kind of thing.

BornOnFire · 05-09-2011, 02:09 PM

Thanks for the info on the MCO. Apparently, Beaudry never titled the vehicle. As you said, they only used it on-site and had no reason to title it. That being said, I spoke with a very helpful person at Modern Lift and they are going to do a search for the MCO for me and hopefully be able to transfer it. I promised them Coffee and Doughnuts for their efforts. If they can not find anything I don't know where I'll go next.....does Columbia provide duplicates for customers after the fact? Once again Tech Support, you are an invaluable asset to this site. Thanks a million.

Tech Support · 05-09-2011, 02:22 PM

We can provide another MCO if needed back to the original dealer (Modern Lift). If your coffee and doughnuts work, you'd be good to go.

BornOnFire · 05-09-2011, 03:04 PM

That's good news. Much appreciated. This will be interesting......I don't know what I will have to do to get this title-seeing that the original owner/company no longer exists. The court appointed "Colliers International" as Liquidating Trustee to "possess and control all Real property and Personal Property" yet GE Capital is the company who supposedly ordered the auction of assets.....so, I don't even know who technically "owns" the cart. The auction company washed their hands of it and told me they would write a bill of sale but that's about all. Can't blame them...what a nightmare!

05-07-2011, 10:06 AM	#1
BornOnFire Not Yet Wild Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sahuarita, AZ Posts: 30	Another question about the VIN Greetings! New member here. Just picked up my Par Cart and for the life of me, am having a hard time deciphering the VIN. I searched through the archives here and found the basic info on letter number combos and I even DL'ed the Colmumbia Service Manual PDF but I still have issues. My VIN seems to be odd. I read fellow member "Tech Support's" posts where he can decipher origination mfg date etc...that's probably who will put me on the right path....so, here it is. The sticker/plate reads exactly like this: P4G-SE P4S11#0ZF1359 Any help would be appreciated. If it's any consolation, the aluminum pulley on the drivers side axle has a sticker on it that reads "November 2005". TIA!

05-08-2011, 12:32 PM	#2
BornOnFire Not Yet Wild Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sahuarita, AZ Posts: 30	Re: Another question about the VIN Well, I will answer my own post I guess... Looks like I have an '07 Special Edition with the 13 HP motor! BONUS!!!!

05-09-2011, 08:11 AM	#4
Tech Support How Can I Help? Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: SW Wisc & West Central, FL Posts: 1,383	Re: Another question about the VIN You already know the most of it. The # sign meant it was build as a special, because we used the Hitachi starter/generator in lieu of the standard unit. The SE at the end meant it had the lift kit installed. Last registered in Tuscon AZ, purchase date of 3/1/07.

05-09-2011, 09:51 AM	#5
BornOnFire Not Yet Wild Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sahuarita, AZ Posts: 30	Re: Another question about the VIN Wow. Thanks so much for that. I had no idea that there was a lift kit installed. I guess I didn't look hard enough. It does have the Over-sized DOT tires on it so maybe that's why the lift was installed? Is there any information as far as who it was sold/registered to? Unfortunately, the auction house did not provide the Title and I was hopefully going to try and hunt the original down before going on the long and grueling process of getting a Replacement title from the MVD. Thanks so much for your service to us Columbia owners on here. Very much appreciated by me and I'm sure the others as well. Do you recommend a resource for Par Cart after-market items such as seat belts, seat covers, etc... It's pretty much slim pickings out there in the inter-web land! Sorry for all the questions...

05-09-2011, 10:28 AM	#6
BornOnFire Not Yet Wild Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sahuarita, AZ Posts: 30	Re: Another question about the VIN Looked at the factory installed lift kit and it looks like a spacer lift setup. 1-1/2" spacer in front installed under the center leaf support and two 2" blocks under the axle at the shock perch in the rear.Does the installation of this kit also require extended knuckles and spindles in the front? This cart just keeps getting better and better!

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05-09-2011, 01:39 PM	#7
Tech Support How Can I Help? Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: SW Wisc & West Central, FL Posts: 1,383	Re: Another question about the VIN It's a general 2" lift kit on the SE. The SE is available as a street legal unit, which required the ability to put on larger tires, and therefore the lift. It required different spindles than the LE model. It was originally sold through Modern Lift Inc, which sold to Beaudry RV in Tuscon. We didn't issue titles for non-street vehicles, just MCO's (Manuf Cert of Origin). It would have gone back to the dealer (Modern Lift in Tuscon (520-882-6380). OEM parts have to pretty much come through a dealer (things like spindles which are manufactured specifically), but aftermarket items can be found from most of the site sponsors thorugh here. A seat belt is a seat belt kind of thing.

05-09-2011, 02:09 PM	#8
BornOnFire Not Yet Wild Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sahuarita, AZ Posts: 30	Re: Another question about the VIN Thanks for the info on the MCO. Apparently, Beaudry never titled the vehicle. As you said, they only used it on-site and had no reason to title it. That being said, I spoke with a very helpful person at Modern Lift and they are going to do a search for the MCO for me and hopefully be able to transfer it. I promised them Coffee and Doughnuts for their efforts. If they can not find anything I don't know where I'll go next.....does Columbia provide duplicates for customers after the fact? Once again Tech Support, you are an invaluable asset to this site. Thanks a million.

05-09-2011, 02:22 PM	#9
Tech Support How Can I Help? Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: SW Wisc & West Central, FL Posts: 1,383	Re: Another question about the VIN We can provide another MCO if needed back to the original dealer (Modern Lift). If your coffee and doughnuts work, you'd be good to go.

05-09-2011, 03:04 PM	#10
BornOnFire Not Yet Wild Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sahuarita, AZ Posts: 30	Re: Another question about the VIN That's good news. Much appreciated. This will be interesting......I don't know what I will have to do to get this title-seeing that the original owner/company no longer exists. The court appointed "Colliers International" as Liquidating Trustee to "possess and control all Real property and Personal Property" yet GE Capital is the company who supposedly ordered the auction of assets.....so, I don't even know who technically "owns" the cart. The auction company washed their hands of it and told me they would write a bill of sale but that's about all. Can't blame them...what a nightmare!

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