1978 ezgo 244cc running problem

robert30robert · 06-09-2015, 06:53 AM

Hello, My name is Robert. I have a 1978 ezgo. I just rebuilt the motor. It has new every thing. piston, rings, jug, crank, bearings, seals, flywheel ETC.. You get the idea. It has been sitting for a few years before I got it. Anyways it started up just fine. I test drove it and it did great. But it stalled and would not start back up. So I check everything out. The only thing I found was it had no spark. So I put a new plug in it. And it started righted back up. I drove it maybe 50 feet and it staled again. And again no spark. I don't think it is fouling the plug out because I have to choke it to get it started. I was thinking the coil might be going bad It has a round style. It looks like an old style ford round just a little smaller. Or maybe the igniter. What do you guys think. Any help would be great.

cart around · 06-09-2015, 07:38 AM

Did you change the fuel pump, and is the plug wet?

Yours should have points, and a condenser. Those are always suspect when there is no spark.

Since you rebuilt the engine, we are also obligated to ask....... Did you put the piston in with the square hole towards the intake, and the rings with the bevel side up?

http://www.buggiesgonewild.com/gas-e...fuel-pump.html

robert30robert · 06-09-2015, 08:01 AM

The fuel pump is working just fine it was rebuilt. The plug is dry. It does have points and a condenser. When I had it apart I checked the points looked great. As far as the piston and rings go. Yes they were put in right. I double checked when I put them In. It seems like when I let it sit. The spark comes back. Now isn't that a sign that the coil is going out. It over heats quits working. Cools down starts working again. Then again the igniter could be going out.

cart around · 06-09-2015, 08:08 AM

I think you are right about the overheating ignition system. I was just thinking that it should take more than 50 feet to warm up enough to break down.

A condenser will also break down like the coil will. Do you have to choke it every time you start it?

cart around · 06-09-2015, 08:25 AM

I pulled these values from an 85 manual with a solid state ignition. I am not 100% sure that your ignition coil would have the same values. It's worth a shot.

Check it cold, and then run until it quits to check again.

robert30robert · 06-09-2015, 10:22 PM

Yes most of the time I do have to choke it to get it started. And I will check to see what the values of the coil are. I have another ? I have another golf cart it is a 1987 ezgo it has a 224cc robins motor in it. I just rebuilt that one too. It runs great. But It has more pep in reverse. In forward it is kind of doggy. What would cause that.

TheGDFP · 06-10-2015, 07:13 AM

Either dragging brakes or mis-timed ignition. Brakes should be self-evident, trying to roll by hand. Timing plate could be allowing more advance in R than F.

robert30robert · 06-10-2015, 08:35 AM

The brakes are just fine. They work great. How do you adjust the time. With out removing the flywheel. That flywheel is a bugger to get off. there are no holes in the flywheel. This cart doesn't have points. So can you explain how to do it. From start to finish. I would really appreciate it.

Now the other cart I have. Before it quits. When you hit the gas. that thing all most spins the tires. That's how much pep it has. I would like to get the other cart running that good.

TheGDFP · 06-10-2015, 08:54 AM

Sadly, you have to remove the flywheel. There are about a hundred threads on here, and links to the service manual. One:
http://www.buggiesgonewild.com/gas-e...on-timing.html

Dave Box · 06-10-2015, 10:10 AM

I beg to differ. Here is a link to an answer I posted a while ago. I enclosed the three pages from the 1978 manual. Start half way down the first page for points adjustment and timing is on the third page.

http://www.buggiesgonewild.com/gas-e...pg-points.html

Good luck
Dave

EDIT I just re read your post and you are talking about two different carts, one with points and the other without. The points cart can be adjusted through an inspection plate. There is no such plate on the 1981 and later cart. Sorry for my confusion. For what it is worth the 2PG engine seems to be very tolerant of timing errors and my experience is that as long as it is somewhere in the ballpark of 20 degrees BTDC it will work.

06-09-2015, 06:53 AM	#1
robert30robert Not Yet Wild Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 10	1978 ezgo 244cc running problem Hello, My name is Robert. I have a 1978 ezgo. I just rebuilt the motor. It has new every thing. piston, rings, jug, crank, bearings, seals, flywheel ETC.. You get the idea. It has been sitting for a few years before I got it. Anyways it started up just fine. I test drove it and it did great. But it stalled and would not start back up. So I check everything out. The only thing I found was it had no spark. So I put a new plug in it. And it started righted back up. I drove it maybe 50 feet and it staled again. And again no spark. I don't think it is fouling the plug out because I have to choke it to get it started. I was thinking the coil might be going bad It has a round style. It looks like an old style ford round just a little smaller. Or maybe the igniter. What do you guys think. Any help would be great.

06-09-2015, 07:38 AM	#2
cart around Test before replacing Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Ohio side of the Pennsylvania border. Posts: 3,495	Re: 1978 ezgo 244cc running problem Did you change the fuel pump, and is the plug wet? Yours should have points, and a condenser. Those are always suspect when there is no spark. Since you rebuilt the engine, we are also obligated to ask....... Did you put the piston in with the square hole towards the intake, and the rings with the bevel side up? http://www.buggiesgonewild.com/gas-e...fuel-pump.html

06-09-2015, 08:01 AM	#3
robert30robert Not Yet Wild Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 10	Re: 1978 ezgo 244cc running problem The fuel pump is working just fine it was rebuilt. The plug is dry. It does have points and a condenser. When I had it apart I checked the points looked great. As far as the piston and rings go. Yes they were put in right. I double checked when I put them In. It seems like when I let it sit. The spark comes back. Now isn't that a sign that the coil is going out. It over heats quits working. Cools down starts working again. Then again the igniter could be going out.

06-09-2015, 08:08 AM	#4
cart around Test before replacing Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Ohio side of the Pennsylvania border. Posts: 3,495	Re: 1978 ezgo 244cc running problem I think you are right about the overheating ignition system. I was just thinking that it should take more than 50 feet to warm up enough to break down. A condenser will also break down like the coil will. Do you have to choke it every time you start it?

06-09-2015, 10:22 PM	#6
robert30robert Not Yet Wild Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 10	Re: 1978 ezgo 244cc running problem Yes most of the time I do have to choke it to get it started. And I will check to see what the values of the coil are. I have another ? I have another golf cart it is a 1987 ezgo it has a 224cc robins motor in it. I just rebuilt that one too. It runs great. But It has more pep in reverse. In forward it is kind of doggy. What would cause that.

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06-10-2015, 07:13 AM	#7
TheGDFP Gone Wild Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Flint, MI, USA Posts: 656	Re: 1978 ezgo 244cc running problem Either dragging brakes or mis-timed ignition. Brakes should be self-evident, trying to roll by hand. Timing plate could be allowing more advance in R than F.

06-10-2015, 08:35 AM	#8
robert30robert Not Yet Wild Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 10	Re: 1978 ezgo 244cc running problem The brakes are just fine. They work great. How do you adjust the time. With out removing the flywheel. That flywheel is a bugger to get off. there are no holes in the flywheel. This cart doesn't have points. So can you explain how to do it. From start to finish. I would really appreciate it. Now the other cart I have. Before it quits. When you hit the gas. that thing all most spins the tires. That's how much pep it has. I would like to get the other cart running that good.

06-10-2015, 08:54 AM	#9
TheGDFP Gone Wild Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Flint, MI, USA Posts: 656	Re: 1978 ezgo 244cc running problem Sadly, you have to remove the flywheel. There are about a hundred threads on here, and links to the service manual. One: http://www.buggiesgonewild.com/gas-e...on-timing.html

06-10-2015, 10:10 AM	#10
Dave Box Respect the Cart Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rocky Mount, Virginia Posts: 2,190	Re: 1978 ezgo 244cc running problem I beg to differ. Here is a link to an answer I posted a while ago. I enclosed the three pages from the 1978 manual. Start half way down the first page for points adjustment and timing is on the third page. http://www.buggiesgonewild.com/gas-e...pg-points.html Good luck Dave EDIT I just re read your post and you are talking about two different carts, one with points and the other without. The points cart can be adjusted through an inspection plate. There is no such plate on the 1981 and later cart. Sorry for my confusion. For what it is worth the 2PG engine seems to be very tolerant of timing errors and my experience is that as long as it is somewhere in the ballpark of 20 degrees BTDC it will work.

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