Cart won't move

scottyb · 10-12-2009, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deerhunter_1

It came a pretty hard downpour of Friday while me and the kids were out riding.. But we didn't cross any deep water or anything...
It was running ok when we parked it in the garage after riding Friday.. Sat morning I plugged in the charger and it appeared to be charging.. Later when the charger had shown fully charge was when I ran into the issue of it not moving..
I am sure when I first turn it on, the soleniod clicked liked normal... but since then, after messing with it and such, checking the batteries and all connections I think it might have tried once. Other than that, it does the same thing... dash light flashes on the lowest setting in sequence with the red light on the DCX controller.

The Alltrax controller will flash a sequence. We need to know if it is 3 or 4 or ? how many times it flashes before a slight pause and starts again..... the pause is subtle.
THen you can go to Alltrax site and read what that code means or post it here ...

deerhunter_1 · 10-12-2009, 10:27 AM

Ok,
Here is what I have:
It appears to be a Howell Spirit controller
(something)- 4HP #ZQ 48-30B-T
0-5K ohm Throttle

It flashes 6 times, then a pause before 6 flashes again.

Photos:

deerhunter_1 · 10-12-2009, 10:33 AM

At the Alltrax site, it says 6 flashing on controller means undervoltage... meaning batteries could be bad... I checked the voltage to each battery and it was reporting over 9v on each... I apologize for sounding dumb, but I would think this would mean the batteries are ok?

scottyb · 10-12-2009, 10:38 AM

From the alltrax website......

Trouble Shooting:
Error code display:# of RED blinks indicates any error conditions that might
exist:

1 Red = Throttle Position Sensor Over Range. Check for open wires.
2 Red = Under Temperature. Controller below -25C
3 Red = HPD. Throttle hasn't gone to zero during this power on cycle.
4 Red = Over Temperature. Controller over 95C
5 Red = Not used
6 Red = Battery Under Voltage detected. Battery V < under voltage slider
7 Red = Battery Over Voltage detected. Battery V > over voltage slider

CHeck battery voltage at the solenoid and at the controller

deerhunter_1 · 10-12-2009, 10:43 AM

The location I need to check will be in pic three(soleniod) both sides with power on and off?
Also which connections for the controller?

again, thanks for your time, I am way too new for this electric stuff......

deerhunter_1 · 10-12-2009, 10:59 AM

OK.. If I am checing the right spots here goes:
Switch off
Ground off battery to front of soleniod - 50v
Ground off battery to back of soleniod - 44.5
ground off battery to controller B+ - 44.5
ground off battery to controller M- - 42.5

Switch on
Ground off battery to front of soleniod - 50v
Ground off battery to back of soleniod - 7.34v
ground off battery to controller B+ - 7.34
ground off battery to controller M- - 7.1

Does this point to a bad solenoid?

deerhunter_1 · 10-12-2009, 10:03 PM

I bypassed the solenoid and my controller went green and the cart moves forward and reverse... depending on the switch postion....
I am going to try and order a replacement solenoid... where would be the s
best place to try and find a replacement?

scottyb · 10-12-2009, 10:07 PM

You did good. You have an upgraded controller so youwill want an upgrade solenoid also. Check the sponsors.... what was the amperage of the controller?

deerhunter_1 · 10-13-2009, 07:11 AM

The solenoid shows it is a M25-400/013..
Here is a close up photo from the Alltrax site:
http://www.alltraxinc.com/images/L-DSCN37322.jpg
Looks like that is what I need.. I found one on ebay but would rather deal with a company someone has experience with....
Thanks for all your help thus far...

scottyb · 10-13-2009, 08:14 AM

That solenoid is available at Alltrax.com It is an excellent choice of contactor. 400a working and 1000 amp breaking capacity

10-12-2009, 10:27 AM	#12
deerhunter_1 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 23	Re: Cart won't move Ok, Here is what I have: It appears to be a Howell Spirit controller (something)- 4HP #ZQ 48-30B-T 0-5K ohm Throttle It flashes 6 times, then a pause before 6 flashes again. Photos:
deerhunter_1 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 23

10-12-2009, 10:33 AM	#13
deerhunter_1 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 23	Re: Cart won't move At the Alltrax site, it says 6 flashing on controller means undervoltage... meaning batteries could be bad... I checked the voltage to each battery and it was reporting over 9v on each... I apologize for sounding dumb, but I would think this would mean the batteries are ok?
deerhunter_1 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 23

10-12-2009, 10:38 AM	#14
scottyb Happy Carting Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 73,419	Re: Cart won't move From the alltrax website...... Trouble Shooting: Error code display:# of RED blinks indicates any error conditions that might exist: 1 Red = Throttle Position Sensor Over Range. Check for open wires. 2 Red = Under Temperature. Controller below -25C 3 Red = HPD. Throttle hasn't gone to zero during this power on cycle. 4 Red = Over Temperature. Controller over 95C 5 Red = Not used 6 Red = Battery Under Voltage detected. Battery V < under voltage slider 7 Red = Battery Over Voltage detected. Battery V > over voltage slider CHeck battery voltage at the solenoid and at the controller

10-12-2009, 10:43 AM	#15
deerhunter_1 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 23	Re: Cart won't move The location I need to check will be in pic three(soleniod) both sides with power on and off? Also which connections for the controller? again, thanks for your time, I am way too new for this electric stuff......
deerhunter_1 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 23

10-12-2009, 10:59 AM	#16
deerhunter_1 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 23	Re: Cart won't move OK.. If I am checing the right spots here goes: Switch off Ground off battery to front of soleniod - 50v Ground off battery to back of soleniod - 44.5 ground off battery to controller B+ - 44.5 ground off battery to controller M- - 42.5 Switch on Ground off battery to front of soleniod - 50v Ground off battery to back of soleniod - 7.34v ground off battery to controller B+ - 7.34 ground off battery to controller M- - 7.1 Does this point to a bad solenoid?
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10-12-2009, 10:03 PM	#17
deerhunter_1 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 23	Re: Cart won't move I bypassed the solenoid and my controller went green and the cart moves forward and reverse... depending on the switch postion.... I am going to try and order a replacement solenoid... where would be the s best place to try and find a replacement?
deerhunter_1 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 23

10-12-2009, 10:07 PM	#18
scottyb Happy Carting Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 73,419	Re: Cart won't move You did good. You have an upgraded controller so youwill want an upgrade solenoid also. Check the sponsors.... what was the amperage of the controller?

10-13-2009, 07:11 AM	#19
deerhunter_1 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 23	Re: Cart won't move The solenoid shows it is a M25-400/013.. Here is a close up photo from the Alltrax site: http://www.alltraxinc.com/images/L-DSCN37322.jpg Looks like that is what I need.. I found one on ebay but would rather deal with a company someone has experience with.... Thanks for all your help thus far...
deerhunter_1 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 23

10-13-2009, 08:14 AM	#20
scottyb Happy Carting Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 73,419	Re: Cart won't move That solenoid is available at Alltrax.com It is an excellent choice of contactor. 400a working and 1000 amp breaking capacity

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