Removing the rear axle snap ring?

utmgrad · 03-11-2015, 09:59 PM

I have a carryall that needs some brake work. The cables need adjusting and I believe I can handle that part. I pulled the drum off one side and can reach in the back and pull the cable by hand and the arm coming out of the backing plate will move but the shoes don't move at all. I borrowed some angled snap ring pliers to try and remove the rear axle so I can see what's going on. I didn't have any luck getting it off.

Is there a trick to this or do I just need to keep trying?

scottyb · 03-11-2015, 10:52 PM

It takes a good pair of 90º snap ring pliers, a steady hand, a flashlight, a good eye, and 3 hands - lol
Once you do it a couple of times it's a walk in the park. Remember fluid may pour out when you remove the axle from the tube. Have a container ready

utmgrad · 03-12-2015, 05:17 PM

Awesome. I have two hands, three thumbs and a buddy with some crappy snap ring pliers. I hope the kids don't hear daddy cussing the golf cart.

Thanks for the advice. If the cable is pulling but the shoes aren't moving, is there anything common to look for?

scottyb · 03-12-2015, 06:30 PM

Brake pedal to shoes is a direct mechanical connection. There is a cable adjustment under the cart. If the lever at the back side of the brake drum is moving but shoes are not contacting the drum, if the cables are adjusted then the shoes may be worn down beyond use. Once the drum is off you can see movement and shoe wear.

93yellowclubcar · 03-12-2015, 07:18 PM

Also, make sure the "slidey deal" where the brake lever goes through the backing plate actually slides. These can gunk and rust up and cause the shoes not to expand outward.

utmgrad · 03-12-2015, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 93yellowclubcar

Also, make sure the "slidey deal" where the brake lever goes through the backing plate actually slides. These can gunk and rust up and cause the shoes not to expand outward.

First off, thanks for using terminology I can understand.

I believe this is what happened. I got the axle out and looked at everything. The brakes still have plenty of meat on them but everything inside the drum was filthy. The rubber boot on the backing plate is torn and letting mud and water in. (Can it be replaced?) I cleaned everything as good as I could and now the "slidey deal" actually slides. I'm going to get some grease and lube everything the manual says to lube and put it back together. Then I guess I'll adjust the cables and see what happens. Sound like a plan?

93yellowclubcar · 03-12-2015, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by utmgrad

First off, thanks for using terminology I can understand.

I believe this is what happened. I got the axle out and looked at everything. The brakes still have plenty of meat on them but everything inside the drum was filthy. The rubber boot on the backing plate is torn and letting mud and water in. (Can it be replaced?) I cleaned everything as good as I could and now the "slidey deal" actually slides. I'm going to get some grease and lube everything the manual says to lube and put it back together. Then I guess I'll adjust the cables and see what happens. Sound like a plan?

I'm not even sure what that thing's called, I just know it can really be a PITA if it freezes up.

Sounds like a plan to me, you might try adjusting the shoes out with the adjuster so that they just act like they want to rub, but don't. Then adjust your cables and you should be good to go!

utmgrad · 03-12-2015, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 93yellowclubcar

I'm not even sure what that thing's called, I just know it can really be a PITA if it freezes up.

Sounds like a plan to me, you might try adjusting the shoes out with the adjuster so that they just act like they want to rub, but don't. Then adjust your cables and you should be good to go!

Can you replace the boot on the backing plate? I don't want to have to do this again anytime soon. I set and stared at the little "screwy thingy" for a while before I figured out how everything worked. I finally figured it out just before the shoes popped out of place and tried to fly off. Luckily my finger stopped them.

93yellowclubcar · 03-13-2015, 06:50 AM

The boot can be replaced (and I think it's good idea!), but I'm not sure who sells them. I just did a quick search and came up empty handed, but a bit of deeper googling may turn up some.

scottyb · 03-13-2015, 08:25 AM

I have bought them before. $12 each I think. Nivel or dealer part.

03-11-2015, 09:59 PM	#1
utmgrad Gone Wild Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Tennessee Posts: 178	Removing the rear axle snap ring? I have a carryall that needs some brake work. The cables need adjusting and I believe I can handle that part. I pulled the drum off one side and can reach in the back and pull the cable by hand and the arm coming out of the backing plate will move but the shoes don't move at all. I borrowed some angled snap ring pliers to try and remove the rear axle so I can see what's going on. I didn't have any luck getting it off. Is there a trick to this or do I just need to keep trying?

03-11-2015, 10:52 PM	#2
scottyb Happy Carting Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 73,419	Re: Removing the rear axle snap ring? It takes a good pair of 90º snap ring pliers, a steady hand, a flashlight, a good eye, and 3 hands - lol Once you do it a couple of times it's a walk in the park. Remember fluid may pour out when you remove the axle from the tube. Have a container ready

03-12-2015, 05:17 PM	#3
utmgrad Gone Wild Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Tennessee Posts: 178	Re: Removing the rear axle snap ring? Awesome. I have two hands, three thumbs and a buddy with some crappy snap ring pliers. I hope the kids don't hear daddy cussing the golf cart. Thanks for the advice. If the cable is pulling but the shoes aren't moving, is there anything common to look for?

03-12-2015, 06:30 PM	#4
scottyb Happy Carting Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 73,419	Re: Removing the rear axle snap ring? Brake pedal to shoes is a direct mechanical connection. There is a cable adjustment under the cart. If the lever at the back side of the brake drum is moving but shoes are not contacting the drum, if the cables are adjusted then the shoes may be worn down beyond use. Once the drum is off you can see movement and shoe wear.

03-12-2015, 07:18 PM	#5
93yellowclubcar ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: West Virginia Posts: 4,094	Re: Removing the rear axle snap ring? Also, make sure the "slidey deal" where the brake lever goes through the backing plate actually slides. These can gunk and rust up and cause the shoes not to expand outward.

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03-13-2015, 06:50 AM	#9
93yellowclubcar ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: West Virginia Posts: 4,094	Re: Removing the rear axle snap ring? The boot can be replaced (and I think it's good idea!), but I'm not sure who sells them. I just did a quick search and came up empty handed, but a bit of deeper googling may turn up some.

03-13-2015, 08:25 AM	#10
scottyb Happy Carting Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 73,419	Re: Removing the rear axle snap ring? I have bought them before. $12 each I think. Nivel or dealer part.

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