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07-21-2016, 11:44 AM | #11 |
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Re: A quick Starter/Gen question
Okay so I got another starter/gen hooked it all up, started it let it idle(key start) put the multi meter on the battery got 12.45v disconnected the sm yellow wire on the gen grounded that post back to battery still 12.45 no up or down flux. Took multi meter to solenoid where large white wire comes from gen getting 16+v went to other side of solenoid (other large post back to battery) only getting 12v. Okay maybe bad voltage reg BUT why when I bypass VR don't I get the 16V back to battery. I'm getting 16 V in one side of solenoid but 12v out the other side back to battery
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07-22-2016, 08:09 PM | #12 |
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Re: A quick Starter/Gen question
I had a brain fart, I think I may have figured out whats going on. I have a continuous duty solenoid with one small terminal and the two big lugs. My feelings right now are, that due to the fact that my DS has been converted by me to a key start. I have one control wire from the ignition switch S terminal. when I twist the key to start its sends 12v to the solenoid closing the circuit and allowing power from the battery to the starter/generator blah,blah so when I stop twisting the key, power is interrupted to the solenoid is this why I don't have power reaching the battery through the solenoid from the generator? I need some electrical help her guys anyone?
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07-28-2016, 05:40 AM | #13 |
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Re: A quick Starter/Gen question
Most of the "key start" set ups I've seen were very simple. Using the original switch which powers the blue lead to the solenoid when on and grounds the ignition when off. Disconnect the micro switches in the control box: upper switch orange wire (from solenoid) gets run to ground - that completes your circuit when ever the ignition switch is on and keeps the starter generator powered when ever the key is on. The lower switch in the control box just gets left disconnected. It's purpose is to ground the ignition and kill the spark when you release the pedal. With it disconnected the ignition will continue till you turn the key off. Final step is to adjust the idle set screw on the carburetor till you get a reasonable idle.
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07-28-2016, 10:37 AM | #14 |
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Re: A quick Starter/Gen question
I made my cart key start. Gutted all orginial wiring, stole a solenoid from a small starter i had lying around. key switch remote wire to starter remote in, pos battery to solenoid in, 6 gauge wire from solenoid out to starter. very simple. However, you are correct with the continuous duty solenoids, for charging the SG needs the 12v in from the battery and produce anywhere from 1 to 2 volts extra to charge. Mine puts out 1.7v without the 12v in from the battery. So far i havent had an issue with the battery dying. I wired in a voltage reg directly from where the yellow wire hooks onto the starter. Made the wiring as simple as possible to make troubleshooting easy, i suggest you do the same. Also, if youre concerned with charging, they sell special starter generators for key start carts that put out a higher voltage. But if youd like, you can do a test. Pull the SG and put it in a vice. from there, grab a battery and check the voltage. then run jumpers to the ground and positive posts and read the output at the field terminal(where the yellow wire hooks up) it should read slightly less than what you read at the battery, but somewhere still around 12v. So say 12.8v in, you get 12v out since that energy is being used. But when hooked to the engine, the engine is doing work and supplementing the charging.
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07-30-2016, 04:36 PM | #15 | |
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07-31-2016, 08:32 AM | #16 |
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Re: A quick Starter/Gen question
Following this thread is kind of helping me with a similar problem that I am having. I also have 16+ vdc coming from the generator, but only 12-+vdc going from solenoid to the battery. My wiring is stock as far as I know(just got the cart 1992 FE290). I am watching very closely to this thread to maybe get some insight on mine. Thanks
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08-03-2016, 06:10 AM | #17 | |
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08-13-2016, 04:44 AM | #20 |
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Re: A quick Starter/Gen question
brother I really need your help in finishing this. I am pretty sure my current Voltage Regulator (VR) is done, but I( have a brand new one on the bench.) No my DS was a PEDAL START which I CHANGED to a key start.
That being said my VR has 3 wires 1 yellow, 1 red, 1 grnd My understanding is the VR senses somehow when my battery falls below a point the VR grounds the terminal and allows the S/G to send 16 + volts back to the battery? From just what I have gathered from you I am assuming the red wire is meant to "monitor" the voltage in the battery and when the voltage drops below a certain point the VR grounds the "yellow wire" and allows the S/G to send "charging juice" to the battery? Now I understand a "diode" it allows power to go one way. a diode placed correctly allows power off the S/G to "flow across" the solenoid via a jumper with a diode to flow "across" the solenoid. you mentioned running the white wire from the S/G directly to the + battery and the red wire from the V/R also to the + battery oh my head hurts LOL |
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