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Old 05-16-2018, 10:27 PM   #21
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You could just measure the ride height at all four wheels.
That's what we do in the auto industry.

Should tell you pretty quick which end, and which corner.
I will measure the ride height. The lean is a whole lot more obvious from the front tho. The left and right leafs sure look the same, I guess eyeballing isn't a good way to judge their condition?

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Old 05-16-2018, 10:28 PM   #22
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Mine was obviously leaning in the rear so I went the longer rear shackle route
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Old 05-16-2018, 10:29 PM   #23
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I think its also important to mention that installing longer shackles in the rear will usually result in a small amount of lift compared to a stock cart so anyone doing that should know that this could result. I had installed low profile tires on my car and they were rubbing in the rear. I installed longer shackles and got an inch of lift which stopped the rubbing.
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Old 05-16-2018, 10:41 PM   #24
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Oh, sure, I get there's a problem. If I had to guess, it was the 350# pig farmer that owned it before me!! lol

I'm completely serious. He had a pig farm.

The finished product turned out pretty decent though.

I was more interested in if guys were finding the front or rear springs responsible for a lean.
Good looking cart.
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Old 05-16-2018, 10:47 PM   #25
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Good looking cart.


Thanks for the compliment. She came from humble beginnings, as many do.
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Old 05-16-2018, 10:49 PM   #26
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Good looking cart.
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:46 PM   #27
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checks to make are as follows that i sent to another member in a PM.

it will help you find out where the problem is. Usually it is the drivers side rear spring and swapping them over from left to right gives a temporary fix, but new springs are the anwer. mind you, if the cart is regularly used by just one person, the problem soon returns. The quote below will at least show you how to check EVERYTHING regarding cart level. The comments regarding bent frame should not be ignored as i have come across this many times, and as you will be taking the rear springs off, check it anyway to eliminate the frame.

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Ok, So let me get this right before making suggestions. Do you have new springs all round and new shock all round? although shocks will not affect ride height. If new springs all round and they are the correct ones, then ride height should be equal on all four corners. If not, then the issue can only be in the frame itself. When installing new front springs ( if you did) then you should have the vehicle supported by jack stands, one each side of the frame (preferably, four, one on each corner). remove the floor mat and remove the six bolts and triangular holding plates to allow the springs removal. on reassembly with the new springs, you reverse this procedure and then measure diagonally from the rear centre bolt to the hole in the front of the spring on the other side With the axle loosely fitted. do this for both springs and adjust the side ways angle of the springs until both diagonal measurements are equal. then you clamp all the bolts up tight. Once this is done you then measure from the ground up to the front of both springs and make sure both measurements are the same. (assuming the chassis is actually level). If not, then the part of the chassis that the spring is held to by the triangular plates is not true. If left this way, one side of the front of the cart will appear to be low and the opposite side rear will appear higher than the other. next, when you install the rear springs, you fit them first to the front spring location, then to the axle assembly and finally, jack up the axle until the holes line up for the rear spring hangers and install the bolts. If, when you remove the jack, the spring hangers are at different angles when the cart is back on level ground, then either the springs are different unsprung lengths ( but you would have checked that they are the same before installing ) or the chassis is not true. This will also give you a cart that is leaning over diagonally front to back or maybe just leaning to one side.

What i have written here is from many years experience, not just text book. i have mainly found the issue to be with the rear of the cart being out of true from a bump into a wall or something. very rarely have i seen the front of the frame bent and affecting the front springs.

to check frame alignment at the rear, just take a measurement on each side from the front spring mount hole centre to the rear spring mount hole centre. If these are not identical, you have a bent frame. If this is what you find, the shorter measurement is incorrect and the rear of the frame arch needs moving out to match the longer measurement on the other side. I do not have the correct measurement to hand, but as long as they are equal and everything i have previously stated is correct then the cart MUST sit true.

Without seeing the cart in person, i cannot advise any further. So, as long as your measurements and checks are done correctly, you should find where the problem lies and know what to do to correct it. If you do after all find it is the rear frame bent, then a jack and short length of timber between the spring mounting points will push the frame back to where it should be. Unless you know someone with a "porta power" body ram to help you. This bending back to true should be done very carefully and not go too far.

Remember. The shocks will NOT affect ride height. If you want to, take all the shocks off while doing all the checks as they are irrelevant to your problem.

When i do these checks, i have the cart on the bench and all four corners of the cart are on stands. This way knowing my bench is 100% square and true, i know my checks and measurements are also true. This may not be possible for you to do but a flat level floor and four stands are a good alternative.

Just so you know, i maintain a fleet of Club car now hence not having all the details to hand for EZGO.

Hope this helps.
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Old 05-17-2018, 12:14 AM   #28
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Great advice Cartmaster. Except you left out the most important part.

It must be done on a concrete (or similar floor) that is 100% level.

EDIT: I see you covered that at the END. My bad.

Don't know what a "square bench" is but a level floor is 100% necessary.
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Old 05-17-2018, 01:47 AM   #29
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Square, as in straight and level, just like me LOL
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