need help again g1

dcarfields · 01-07-2012, 03:37 PM

ok expert g1's i replaced clutch side seal .i can't get it to seal .do I keep tightening the bolt to clutch? will it break help me out pls

Field6565 · 01-07-2012, 04:13 PM

What cant you get to seal???

Field6565 · 01-07-2012, 04:15 PM

You cant get the seal in? Put some oil on it and tap it in with a small piece of wood.

dcarfields · 01-07-2012, 07:09 PM

the seal goes in flush but when i put the rest together and turn the engine over the seal pops back out there a 1/4 inch gap between the seal and the clutch.the compression pops it out and oil and air excape.

Field6565 · 01-07-2012, 11:34 PM

Ok... So you put the new seal in.. Put the inner part of the oil pump plate on? Then the outer oil pump plate on? It should bolt into place and the seal should not move at all. It doesnt matter if there is a gap in between the seal and the clutch. The oil pump plates hold the seal in the casing. Is there a lot of play in your crank bearings? Im confused about what is going on here.

yamarancher · 01-08-2012, 01:38 AM

Got any pictures? if it's installed right, you can't see the seal behind the clutch,because the inner oil pump housing holds it in. if the crankshaft bearings are worn out, it won't hold anyway. does this cart have an oil injection pump on it ?

slonomo · 01-08-2012, 07:39 AM

That seal should stay in place all by itself. Either it's not in all the way or the crank bearings are bad enough that the crank is putting pressure on the seal. My engine would run, even though the crank bearings were shot, so it's a real possibility that could be the problem. You should not have to rely on the oil pump housing to hold the seal in. Lots of guys take that oil pump off anyway.

dcarfields · 01-08-2012, 10:20 AM

the oil pump is off and the bearing look good?

Field6565 · 01-08-2012, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcarfields

the oil pump is off and the bearing look good?

Move the crank by hand from side to side and see if there is any slop in it. The bearing may look good but that will be the true test. Now my 84 has a slight bit of play in it and I have seen a few other G1s with a slight bit of play in it but if it is pushing the seal out then it would have a huge amount of slop in it and should be very noticable.

dcarfields · 01-08-2012, 03:27 PM

very little play almost none.i hate putting together and taking it apart but what can i do ? i'm going to try a little liquid gasket on the outside of the seal and try pushing it further in place, maybe it just not suppose to be flush but in a little further any other ideas would be welcome

01-07-2012, 03:37 PM	#1
dcarfields Not Yet Wild Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 20	need help again g1 ok expert g1's i replaced clutch side seal .i can't get it to seal .do I keep tightening the bolt to clutch? will it break help me out pls
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01-07-2012, 04:13 PM	#2
Field6565 Gone Wild Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Pittsburgh Pa Posts: 1,551	Re: need help again g1 What cant you get to seal???

01-07-2012, 04:15 PM	#3
Field6565 Gone Wild Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Pittsburgh Pa Posts: 1,551	Re: need help again g1 You cant get the seal in? Put some oil on it and tap it in with a small piece of wood.

01-07-2012, 07:09 PM	#4
dcarfields Not Yet Wild Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 20	Re: need help again g1 the seal goes in flush but when i put the rest together and turn the engine over the seal pops back out there a 1/4 inch gap between the seal and the clutch.the compression pops it out and oil and air excape.
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01-07-2012, 11:34 PM	#5
Field6565 Gone Wild Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Pittsburgh Pa Posts: 1,551	Re: need help again g1 Ok... So you put the new seal in.. Put the inner part of the oil pump plate on? Then the outer oil pump plate on? It should bolt into place and the seal should not move at all. It doesnt matter if there is a gap in between the seal and the clutch. The oil pump plates hold the seal in the casing. Is there a lot of play in your crank bearings? Im confused about what is going on here. Last edited by Field6565; 01-07-2012 at 11:42 PM.. Reason: info

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01-08-2012, 01:38 AM	#6
yamarancher Gone Wild Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 232	Re: need help again g1 Got any pictures? if it's installed right, you can't see the seal behind the clutch,because the inner oil pump housing holds it in. if the crankshaft bearings are worn out, it won't hold anyway. does this cart have an oil injection pump on it ?
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01-08-2012, 07:39 AM	#7
slonomo Searching for The Way Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Medina, Ohio (NEOHIO) Posts: 11,441	Re: need help again g1 That seal should stay in place all by itself. Either it's not in all the way or the crank bearings are bad enough that the crank is putting pressure on the seal. My engine would run, even though the crank bearings were shot, so it's a real possibility that could be the problem. You should not have to rely on the oil pump housing to hold the seal in. Lots of guys take that oil pump off anyway.

01-08-2012, 10:20 AM	#8
dcarfields Not Yet Wild Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 20	Re: need help again g1 the oil pump is off and the bearing look good?
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01-08-2012, 03:27 PM	#10
dcarfields Not Yet Wild Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 20	Re: need help again g1 very little play almost none.i hate putting together and taking it apart but what can i do ? i'm going to try a little liquid gasket on the outside of the seal and try pushing it further in place, maybe it just not suppose to be flush but in a little further any other ideas would be welcome
dcarfields Not Yet Wild Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 20