Cc DS vs Precedent

russb442 · 10-10-2013, 06:46 PM

Hello all, I have very odd question and would like honest input. I currently own a 2001 Cc DS (series) cart. The cart is lifted with a A-arm lift with 26 mudlights( yes they fit and no rub. The cart are showing it's age from no brakes to worn bushings, faded and broken plastic. About a year ago I dropped a large pile of cash and got a Alltrax 500 amp controller and a D and D motor that suppose to be around 25 hp. It has all the power that I need. Also I have 2 year old 8 volt batteries 48 volt system.

Here is the question, the cart it self needs to be replaced. I have found some newer non series DS carts at good prices. I got the idea since I got 1000 in motor and controller 300 lift and 300 in tires, to buy say a 2010( the kind with the I guess it's called the IQ system, strip it all down and install the series combination motor controller wiring harness, lift tires ect. I pretty sure this would work. With little labor done in my shop.

Ok so today I talked to a local used golf cart dealer and was telling him my plans. He threw out the idea of taking a precedent and doing the same swap. The precedents to me looks nicer and it's suppose to have a stronger frame.

After reading alittle on the forum I think it would be possible. The only thing I'm unsure of is the MCOR. I know I would need the older DS version but do they have the same "bolt pattern " to bolt up.

The only other option would be to sell my Alltrax and d and d motor to a small market at a great loss and start over.

I know this seems to be a lot of work but I like building stuff in my shop.

So do scrap the controller/ motor I have, find a newer DS and make the swap or gut a Precedent and put the older system in. If the precedent would work that would be my choice. Thanks for advice... Russ

EricNCSU1204 · 10-10-2013, 08:28 PM

There is a thread on here where a guy took his precedent all the way down to the frame. Pretty much the entire cart is plastic with the exception of the suspension, the 2 frame rails and the cowl support. They do look good but IMO just not as solid as the DS

scotter · 10-10-2013, 08:35 PM

rebuild the DS with new body and seats. Suspension parts are cheap.

TahoeDawgZ71 · 10-10-2013, 08:39 PM

My vote is on the Precedent. The frame is leaps and bounds tougher than a DS. Boxed frames (Precedent) are ALWAYS stronger than I-Beam DS. I've been in the business for 13 years. The Precedent came out in 2004. I've only seen one bent frame in this time. I've straightened hundreds of DS frames in this same amount of time. Also, don't worry about the MCOR. The MCOR on the Precedent emits the exact same frequency as the MCOR on your DS car. It also has the same two plugs for the wiring.

jakesnake27 · 10-10-2013, 09:25 PM

Tahoe knows what he's talking about...

If you like the Precedent better and like doing stuff like this, go for it!

russb442 · 10-11-2013, 07:19 AM

Thanks guys I know I can make everything else work, I was only worried about fabricating a mount for the mcor but question was answered. Thanks

Swan · 10-11-2013, 08:32 AM

I would stay with the DS/series line myself . But I like the look of the carts better the precedent

russb442 · 10-11-2013, 02:46 PM

hey Dawg, is the rear axle the same on the Precedent as the DS?

Stevegrmich · 10-11-2013, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by russb442

hey Dawg, is the rear axle the same on the Precedent as the DS?

. . . I think they are different part numbers . . .

TahoeDawgZ71 · 10-11-2013, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by russb442

hey Dawg, is the rear axle the same on the Precedent as the DS?

100% Identical

10-10-2013, 06:46 PM	#1
russb442 Gone Wild Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 170	Cc DS vs Precedent Hello all, I have very odd question and would like honest input. I currently own a 2001 Cc DS (series) cart. The cart is lifted with a A-arm lift with 26 mudlights( yes they fit and no rub. The cart are showing it's age from no brakes to worn bushings, faded and broken plastic. About a year ago I dropped a large pile of cash and got a Alltrax 500 amp controller and a D and D motor that suppose to be around 25 hp. It has all the power that I need. Also I have 2 year old 8 volt batteries 48 volt system. Here is the question, the cart it self needs to be replaced. I have found some newer non series DS carts at good prices. I got the idea since I got 1000 in motor and controller 300 lift and 300 in tires, to buy say a 2010( the kind with the I guess it's called the IQ system, strip it all down and install the series combination motor controller wiring harness, lift tires ect. I pretty sure this would work. With little labor done in my shop. Ok so today I talked to a local used golf cart dealer and was telling him my plans. He threw out the idea of taking a precedent and doing the same swap. The precedents to me looks nicer and it's suppose to have a stronger frame. After reading alittle on the forum I think it would be possible. The only thing I'm unsure of is the MCOR. I know I would need the older DS version but do they have the same "bolt pattern " to bolt up. The only other option would be to sell my Alltrax and d and d motor to a small market at a great loss and start over. I know this seems to be a lot of work but I like building stuff in my shop. So do scrap the controller/ motor I have, find a newer DS and make the swap or gut a Precedent and put the older system in. If the precedent would work that would be my choice. Thanks for advice... Russ

10-10-2013, 08:28 PM	#2
EricNCSU1204 Not Yet Wild Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Apex, NC Posts: 51	Re: Cc DS vs Precedent There is a thread on here where a guy took his precedent all the way down to the frame. Pretty much the entire cart is plastic with the exception of the suspension, the 2 frame rails and the cowl support. They do look good but IMO just not as solid as the DS

10-10-2013, 08:35 PM	#3
scotter Gone Wild Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: San Clemente, CA Posts: 259	Re: Cc DS vs Precedent rebuild the DS with new body and seats. Suspension parts are cheap.

10-10-2013, 08:39 PM	#4
TahoeDawgZ71 revolutiongolfcars.com Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Golf Car Capital of The World... Augusta, Georgia Posts: 10,224	Re: Cc DS vs Precedent My vote is on the Precedent. The frame is leaps and bounds tougher than a DS. Boxed frames (Precedent) are ALWAYS stronger than I-Beam DS. I've been in the business for 13 years. The Precedent came out in 2004. I've only seen one bent frame in this time. I've straightened hundreds of DS frames in this same amount of time. Also, don't worry about the MCOR. The MCOR on the Precedent emits the exact same frequency as the MCOR on your DS car. It also has the same two plugs for the wiring.

10-10-2013, 09:25 PM	#5
jakesnake27 Gone Wild Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 14,245	Re: Cc DS vs Precedent Tahoe knows what he's talking about... If you like the Precedent better and like doing stuff like this, go for it!
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10-11-2013, 07:19 AM	#6
russb442 Gone Wild Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 170	Re: Cc DS vs Precedent Thanks guys I know I can make everything else work, I was only worried about fabricating a mount for the mcor but question was answered. Thanks

10-11-2013, 08:32 AM	#7
Swan Cave Dweller Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Always On The Move Posts: 22,232	Re: Cc DS vs Precedent I would stay with the DS/series line myself . But I like the look of the carts better the precedent

10-11-2013, 02:46 PM	#8
russb442 Gone Wild Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 170	Re: Cc DS vs Precedent hey Dawg, is the rear axle the same on the Precedent as the DS?

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