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Old 07-05-2021, 09:40 PM   #21
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In addition to what FT said, those cables look like they have some kinda crappy crimps. Also make sure that fuse isn’t open. If it is nothing will work.
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Old 07-05-2021, 10:08 PM   #22
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I am not sure if there is an OBC
Follow the Bat- cable coming off of the last battery. If it goes through a hole in a metal plate then you have a OBC.
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Old 07-05-2021, 10:30 PM   #23
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Follow the Bat- cable coming off of the last battery. If it goes through a hole in a metal plate then you have a OBC.
I’m assuming the positive cable, it does not go through a hole in a metal plate.

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Old 07-06-2021, 05:04 AM   #24
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I’m assuming the positive cable, it does not go through a hole in a metal plate.

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No it's not. Like Walt said, the - cable. Not the + cable.
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Old 07-06-2021, 08:26 AM   #25
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Thanks for the clarification, I didn’t initially understand bat- to mean negative cable, now I do.

Neither battery cable goes through a hole in a metal plate. So no OBC
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Old 07-06-2021, 09:21 AM   #26
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My research revealed there is a rebuild kit for the Alltrax solenoid, which got me wondering, what does the inside of my solenoid look like.

Attached are some photos. The contacts seem to have some build up “soldered on.”

Is that significant?

In any case I just ordered an upgraded 400a Alltrax Sw400 solenoid from one of our sponsors. The buildup on both sides of the contact can’t be helping.
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Old 07-06-2021, 12:36 PM   #27
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The contacts seem to have some build up “soldered on.” Is that significant?

In any case I just ordered an upgraded 400a Alltrax Sw400 solenoid from one of our sponsors. The buildup on both sides of the contact can’t be helping.
The "build up" you refer to is due to "arcing" which occurs when the circuit breaks. The same thing happens every time you turn a light switch off ... a small spark or "arc" occurs when the circuit breaks which slowly deteriorate the metal conductor surfaces. Your solenoid contacts show regular wear and tear considering that your cart is 15 years old with likely the original solenoid.

I assume your mean that your ordered a 400 amp Albright SW200 solenoid ... to my knowledge, Alltrax does not make solenoids ??

Did you get a chance to bench test your old solenoid? Check resistances across small conductors. Check resistance across large studs on the bench. Connect 48 volts across the small conductors and test for function and conductivity across large studs. Not too much magic going on in a solenoid ... it is really just an electrically operated switch controlled by applying voltage to the small conductors which puts the two large studs in electrical contact ... that is why a solenoid is technically called a "contactor".
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Old 07-06-2021, 12:54 PM   #28
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. . . I assume your mean that your ordered a 400 amp Albright SW200 solenoid ... to my knowledge, Alltrax does not make solenoids ??

Did you get a chance to bench test your old solenoid?
You are correct. I typed Alltrax rather than Albright/Curtis

I have not bench tested the old one yet. Once I clean it up I will. But I think the amperage rating is lower than I should I have with my cart.
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Old 07-10-2021, 04:24 PM   #29
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Default BGW to the Rescue!

Thanks to this outstanding Forum I was able to get my Frankencart ACG H3 (Bastardized with CC parts) back on the road.

The problem was likely due to arcing from a bad connection. See photo.

I ended up upgrading my solenoid in the process. The cart seemed a little more spirited after the solenoid upgrade.

In the process, all the cables were replaced, terminals cleaned with baking soda.

Thanks everyone for the support
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Old 07-10-2021, 04:32 PM   #30
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That melted battery was caused by a bad connection. In addition to your cleaning them you should make sure they're tight by torquing them to 100 ft/lbs. Harbor Freight has inexpensive torgue wrenches.
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