had to run home in reverse???

camojfk · 03-17-2011, 08:00 PM

tha cart is spitting gas towards the air filter. the inside part of the hose that connets the air filter to the carb is wet with fuel. if i hold the choke half way i can get the cart to move, it ran good about a mile all the way home in reverse it has spark and it seems to have fuel so i need a little help

victorjohn · 03-17-2011, 08:04 PM

Basically a timing issue. Is this a 4 stroke? If so, check your timing belt.

ez go go · 03-17-2011, 08:08 PM

Do you have a 2 or 4 stroke?

camojfk · 03-17-2011, 08:10 PM

sorry guys it s a 2 stroke and it won t go in foward it tries but can t

ez go go · 03-17-2011, 08:17 PM

I would do a compression check just to rule that out and then go from there....

camojfk · 03-17-2011, 08:37 PM

i just let it sit for 15 min. and it started up in reverse but not forward whats the differents why does it matter forward reverse i know the motor spins different way but theres got to be more then that so maybe rings??? i ll check the compression tomorrow

mannyvillegas · 03-18-2011, 07:03 AM

How about turning the body around? (Just a joke! Don't get mad.)

Dave Box · 03-18-2011, 08:32 AM

Well the big difference is, as you point out, is the rotation of the engine. It is entirely possible that your crankshaft seals are on their way out and are starting to leak. What may be happening is that in reverse the seals snug up a little tighter, seal up and she runs.

Here is what I suggest. The fuel pump needs the oscillations of crankcase pressure to operate so if you disconnect the line to the carburetor, point it into a container, crank up in forward and measure the amount of fuel pumped up in say 5 seconds. Now repeat the operation but this time in reverse. If the amount of fuel delivered in reverse is far greater then you are looking at the seal replacement.

Note that it would be kinder on your battery and safer for you if you removed the spark plug.

Of course it could be something else but this little test should point you down the road.

Dave

camojfk · 03-18-2011, 09:32 AM

thanks dave i will try that
i thought about turning the body around but that would be to easy

camojfk · 03-18-2011, 11:40 AM

ok the compression is 125 so i guess that rules out rings
measure the amount of fuel and it was about the same so the seal should be ok right
i took the spark plug out when i did the compression test and hooked it to the plug wire and laid it on the muffler and it had spark

03-17-2011, 08:00 PM	#1
camojfk Not Yet Wild Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: evansville il Posts: 34	had to run home in reverse??? tha cart is spitting gas towards the air filter. the inside part of the hose that connets the air filter to the carb is wet with fuel. if i hold the choke half way i can get the cart to move, it ran good about a mile all the way home in reverse it has spark and it seems to have fuel so i need a little help

03-17-2011, 08:04 PM	#2
victorjohn Gone Wild Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: california Posts: 151	Re: had to run home in reverse??? Basically a timing issue. Is this a 4 stroke? If so, check your timing belt.

03-17-2011, 08:08 PM	#3
ez go go Doin' the Wild Thang Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Greenville, AL Posts: 1,063	Re: had to run home in reverse??? Do you have a 2 or 4 stroke?

03-17-2011, 08:10 PM	#4
camojfk Not Yet Wild Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: evansville il Posts: 34	Re: had to run home in reverse??? sorry guys it s a 2 stroke and it won t go in foward it tries but can t

03-17-2011, 08:17 PM	#5
ez go go Doin' the Wild Thang Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Greenville, AL Posts: 1,063	Re: had to run home in reverse??? I would do a compression check just to rule that out and then go from there....

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03-17-2011, 08:37 PM	#6
camojfk Not Yet Wild Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: evansville il Posts: 34	Re: had to run home in reverse??? i just let it sit for 15 min. and it started up in reverse but not forward whats the differents why does it matter forward reverse i know the motor spins different way but theres got to be more then that so maybe rings??? i ll check the compression tomorrow

03-18-2011, 07:03 AM	#7
mannyvillegas Getting Wild Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: California Posts: 93	Re: had to run home in reverse??? How about turning the body around? (Just a joke! Don't get mad.)

03-18-2011, 08:32 AM	#8
Dave Box Respect the Cart Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rocky Mount, Virginia Posts: 2,190	Re: had to run home in reverse??? Well the big difference is, as you point out, is the rotation of the engine. It is entirely possible that your crankshaft seals are on their way out and are starting to leak. What may be happening is that in reverse the seals snug up a little tighter, seal up and she runs. Here is what I suggest. The fuel pump needs the oscillations of crankcase pressure to operate so if you disconnect the line to the carburetor, point it into a container, crank up in forward and measure the amount of fuel pumped up in say 5 seconds. Now repeat the operation but this time in reverse. If the amount of fuel delivered in reverse is far greater then you are looking at the seal replacement. Note that it would be kinder on your battery and safer for you if you removed the spark plug. Of course it could be something else but this little test should point you down the road. Dave

03-18-2011, 09:32 AM	#9
camojfk Not Yet Wild Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: evansville il Posts: 34	Re: had to run home in reverse??? thanks dave i will try that i thought about turning the body around but that would be to easy

03-18-2011, 11:40 AM	#10
camojfk Not Yet Wild Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: evansville il Posts: 34	Re: had to run home in reverse??? ok the compression is 125 so i guess that rules out rings measure the amount of fuel and it was about the same so the seal should be ok right i took the spark plug out when i did the compression test and hooked it to the plug wire and laid it on the muffler and it had spark

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